Mike Gravel in 2007 Democratic primary debate in South Carolina


On Energy & Oil: I started the nuclear critique in this country

Q: With the French system as the model, is the US woefully behind in its use of nuclear energy?

A: No, not at all. I think there had to be a maturation process. And I’m the one that started the nuclear critique in this country. And I’m also the one that brought about the Alaska pipeline by one vote in the Congress. So when you ask about the energy issues, let me just tell you....

Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007

On Foreign Policy: US has no important enemies, so treat world as equals

Q: What three nations, other than Iraq, represent, to you, the biggest threat to the US?

A: We have no important enemies. What we need to do is to begin to deal with the rest of the world as equals. And we don’t do that. We spend more as a nation on defense than all the rest of the world put together. Who are we afraid of? Iraq has never been a threat to us. We invaded them. The military industrial complex not only controls our government, lock, stock and barrel, but they control our culture.

Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007

On Homeland Security: Threatening nukes is immoral foreign policy

When you have mainline candidates that say that there’s nothing off the table with respect to Iran, that’s code for using nuclear devices. I got to tell you, when I’m president of the United States, there will be no preemptive wars with nukes--nuclear devices. To my mind, it’s immoral, and it’s been immoral for the last 50 years as part of American foreign policy.
Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007

On Homeland Security: Fighting terrorism with a war doesn’t work

We are mischaracterizing terrorism. Terrorism has been with civilization from the beginning. And it will be there to the end. We’re going to be as successful fighting terrorism as we are fighting drugs with a war. It doesn’t work. What you have to do is to begin to change the whole foreign policy. This invasion brought about more terrorists. Osama bin Laden must have been rolling in his blankets how happy he was over our invading Iraq.
Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007

On Homeland Security: US is the greatest violator of the non-proliferation treaty

OBAMA: I think it would be a profound mistake for us to initiate a war with Iran. But, have no doubt, Iran possessing nuclear weapons will be a major threat to us and to the region.

GRAVEL: With respect to Iran, we’ve sanctioned them for 26 years. We scared the bejesus out of them when the president says, “They’re evil.” Well, you know something? These things don’t work. They don’t work. We need to recognize them. And you know something? Who is the greatest violator of the non-proliferation treaty The United States of America. We signed a pledge that we would begin to disarm, and we’re not doing it. We’re expanding our nukes. Who the hell are we going to nuke? Tell me, Barack. Barack, who do you want to nuke?

OBAMA: I’m not planning to nuke anybody right now, Mike, I promise.

GRAVEL: Good. Good. We’re safe then, for a while.

Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007

On Principles & Values: Did not plan on presidency, but candidates are frightening

Q: At a forum earlier this year you said it doesn’t matter whether you are elected president or not, so then, why are you here tonight? Shouldn’t debates be for candidates who are in the race to win the race?

A: You’re right. I made that statement. But that’s before I had a chance to stand with [the other presidential candidates] three times. It’s like going into the Senate. You know, the first time you get there, you’re all excited, “My God, how did I ever get here?” Then, about six months later, you say, “How the hell did the rest of them get here?” And I got to tell you, after standing up with them, some of these people frighten me. When you have mainline candidates that turn around and say that there’s nothing off the table with respect to Iran, that’s code for using nuclear devices.

Q: Who on this stage exactly tonight worries you so much?

A: Well, I would say the top tier ones. They’ve made statements.

Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007

On War & Peace: Soldiers in Iraq are dying in vain; so just get out

We should just plain get out [of Iraq]. It’s their country. They’re asking us to leave. And we insist on staying there. And why not get out? What harm is it going to do? Oh, you hear the statement, “Well, my God, these soldiers will have died in vain.” The entire deaths of Vietnam died in vain. And they’re dying in vain right this very second. And you know what’s worse than a soldier dying in vain? It’s more soldiers dying in vain. That’s what’s worse.
Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007

On War & Peace: Iraq war was lost the day Bush invaded-make it illegal

Q: In your two-terms in the Senate, you played a role in the fight to cut off money for the Vietnam War. What would be your advice for the elected officials on this stage who are opposed to the conflict, but also feel the need to keep on funding the conflict?

A: Well, first off, understand that this war was lost the day that George Bush invaded Iraq on a fraudulent basis. Now with respect to what’s going on in the Congress, I’m really embarrassed. What has been passed? George Bush communicated over a year ago that he would not get out of Iraq until he left office. Do we not believe him? We need to find another way. I would hope the other senators would focus on, how do you get out? You pass the law, not a resolution, a law making it a felony to stay there. We’ve got the votes there. Let the American people see clearly who’s keeping the war going and who’s not. And that’s just the beginning of the tactic, if they’re tough enough to do it.

Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007

The above quotations are from 2007 Democratic primary debate in South Carolina, sponsored by MSNBC, April 26, 2007.
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