2008 second presidential debate, in Nashville: on Homeland Security


Barack Obama: Serving America doesn’t mean going out shopping

Q: As president, what sacrifices will you ask every American to make, to get out of the economic morass that we’re now in?

OBAMA: A lot of you remember the tragedy of 9/11 and how all of the country was ready to come together and make enormous changes to make us not only safer, but to make us a better country and a more unified country. And President Bush did some smart things at the outset, but one of the opportunities that was missed was, when he spoke to the American people, he said, “Go out and shop.“ That wasn’t the kind of call to service that I think the American people were looking for.

I think the young people of America are especially interested in how they can serve, and that’s one of the reasons why I’m interested in doubling the Peac Corps, making sure that we are creating a volunteer corps all across this country that can be involved in their community, involved in military service, so that our troops are not the only ones bearing the burden of renewing America.

Source: 2008 second presidential debate against John McCain Oct 7, 2008

Barack Obama: Obama Doctrine: moral interest as well as national interest

Q: What is the Obama doctrine for use of force that the US would send when we don’t have national security issues at stake?

OBAMA: Well, we may not always have national security issues at stake, but we have moral issues at stake. If we could have intervened effectively in the Holocaust, who among us would say that we had a moral obligation not to go in? If we could’ve stopped Rwanda, surely, if we had the ability, that would be something that we would have to strongly consider and act. So when genocide is happening, when ethnic cleansing is happening somewhere around the world and we stand idly by, that diminishes us.

And so I do believe that we have to consider it as part of our interests, our national interests, in intervening where possible. But understand that there’s a lot of cruelty around the world. We’re not going to be able to be everywhere all the time. That’s why it’s so important for us to be able to work in concert with our allies.

Source: 2008 second presidential debate against John McCain Oct 7, 2008

John McCain: FactCheck: Pushed for immediate withdrawal from Somalia

McCain lamented having to “withdraw in humiliation” from Somalia in 1993, but failed to mention his own role. McCain said, “We went in to Somalia as a peacekeeping organization, we ended up trying to be peacemakers and we ended up having to withdraw in humiliation.”

What McCain isn’t saying is that he led an attempt to force the Clinton administration to withdraw more quickly. After the First Battle of Mogadishu (immortalized in the book and film “Black Hawk Down”), Clinton proposed a six-month plan for withdrawing combat troops. McCain introduced an amendment to cut off funding for combat in Somalia and force an immediate withdrawal. The amendment was tabled and the Senate backed Clinton’s plan. In his 2002 memoir, “Worth the Fighting For,” McCain called his amendment “hasty” and wrote that he “regretted” what he came to see as “a retreat in the face of aggression from an inferior foe.”

Source: FactCheck.org on 2008 second presidential debate Oct 7, 2008

John McCain: FactCheck: Voted against Lebanon deployment, but post-hoc

McCain repeated an error he made in the last debate when he said, “In Lebanon, I stood up to President Reagan, my hero, and said, if we send Marines in there, how can we possibly beneficially affect this situation? And said we shouldn’t. Unfortunately, almost 300 brave young Marines were killed.” In fact, as we noted previously, McCain wasn’t elected until three months after the Marines had been deployed. He did vote against the post-hoc War Powers Act authorization of the deployment (after the troop deployment had already occurred); Reagan signed it into law in October 1983, 11 days before a suicide bomber set off a blast that killed 241 servicemembers in their barracks.
Source: FactCheck.org on 2008 second presidential debate Oct 7, 2008

  • The above quotations are from 2008 second presidential debate, Barack Obama vs. John McCain, at Belmont University in Nashville TN.
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