Mark Warner in 2008 VA Senate Debate between Jim Gilmore and Mark Warner


On Abortion: Support Roe v. Wade, but respect differing views

Q: Do you support a constitutional amendment to limit abortion? When, if ever, should abortion be legal?

Warner: I support Roe v Wade. But I think folks with differing views on the issue of abortion can all agree that we ought to do everything we can to reduce unintended pregnancies. I signed a bill when I was governor to require parental notification with a judicial bypass. As the father of three daughters, I am very comfortable with this law.

Jim Gilmore: As governor of Virginia, I stood for the sanctity of life, pushing through legislation that created a 24-hour waiting period for women seeking abortions, required parental notification for minors and banned partial birth abortion. As your U.S. senator, I will continue to work to preserve Virginia values including the protection of human life.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in The Virginian-Pilot Oct 17, 2008

On Civil Rights: We still need affirmative action, for now

Q: Do you support affirmative action programs? Do you support any changes in those programs?

Gilmore: I do not support quotas, but all during my career I have worked to create opportunities for minorities.

Warner: I'd like to see an America where there's not a need for affirmative action, but for now, we need to make sure there is a level playing field for everyone to participate. I come from the business world, and I think most business people will tell you that they want to recruit employees who were educated in an environment where they were exposed to diverse people and ideas. As I have said many times in the past, I continue to be opposed to the use of quotas.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in The Virginian-Pilot Oct 17, 2008

On Civil Rights: Let military leaders advise about "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

Q: What is your personal view on gays in the military? Do you support any changes in current policy of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", which allows gays to serve as long as they don't make known their sexual preference?

Warner: I will seek the advice of our military leaders as they begin a review of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. We also need to have appropriate recruitment and retention polices that will keep our military strong.

Gilmore: I do not support any changes in the current policy.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in The Virginian-Pilot Oct 17, 2008

On Education: No Child Left Behind Act isn't working

Q: What is the federal government's role in education?

Warner: The federal role in public education should be to provide the right incentives for underperforming schools and to work with states and localities to make sure we have an educated and competitive workforce. While I agree with the goals of No Child Left Behind, I think the policy has been poorly implemented. As governor, I was proud that we made the largest investment in public education in Virginia history. Over the course of my administration, the percentage of fully accredited public schools increased from 40 percent to 92 percent. Virginia students posted the highest math SAT score increase in the nation, and Virginia was recognized as a leader in areas ranging from high school reform to school efficiency.

Gilmore: I do not believe the "No Child Left Behind Act" is working and I believe we need to return those responsibilities to the states.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in The Virginian-Pilot Oct 17, 2008

On Health Care: Cannot allow 47 million Americans to go without access

Q: Would you favor legislation requiring that every American have health insurance?

Warner: We need to fix our nation's health care system. It's both a moral issue and a competitiveness issue--we simply cannot allow 47 million Americans to go without access to health care while those who are fortunate enough to have insurance pay twice as much per person as our competitors around the world. By focusing on preventative care and cutting costs through proven measures like switching to electronic medical records, we can expand coverage and increase quality of care. I do not support a government run, single payer system.

Gilmore: I support a broad range of health care reform including tax reform to help people buy health insurance and maintain health savings accounts. I believe we also need medical liability reforms to reduce frivolous lawsuits and help bring down health care costs.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in The Virginian-Pilot Oct 17, 2008

On Homeland Security: World-class benefits for military veterans

Q: What changes would you propose to the current compensation and benefits provided to active-duty military personnel, injured service members and veterans?

Warner: We must keep our military strong by providing compensation and incentives that allow us to meet our recruiting goals and result in our soldiers wanting to stay in the military for longer. We must recommit to providing world-class health care and education benefits to our troops and military veterans. They stand for us on the battlefield, and we must stand with them when they come home. Improving the services veterans receive is not only good government, it is a debt of gratitude we owe them for their sacrifices and accomplishments.

Jim Gilmore: As a veteran myself, I believe we must provide for our service members and their families while they serve and that our injured service members and veterans must not be left behind.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in The Virginian-Pilot Oct 17, 2008

On Social Security: Bi-partisan commission on entitlements, with binding outcome

Q: What is your stance on providing and paying for Medicare and Social Security?

Warner: As chairman of the National Governors Association, I helped formulate a bi-partisan plan to slow the growth of entitlement health care costs, and I'll bring the same approach to Washington. Social Security benefits are the bedrock of retirement for most Americans. It's estimated that without Social Security, more than 50% of seniors would be living in poverty and for two-thirds of the elderly, Social Security provides the majority of their income. I support a bi-partisan commission similar in structure and process to the BRAC commission, which seeks to reduce the influence of politics and special interests and concludes with a simple "up" or "down" vote on its ultimate recommendations, to explore commonsense ideas that will keep the Social Security program secure and solvent.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in The Virginian-Pilot Oct 17, 2008

On Budget & Economy: Gilmore’s budgets “full of gimmicks” created $6B deficit

Warner criticized Gilmore for delivering a state budget [when he succeeded Gilmore as Governor, which Warner] described as “full of gimmicks” and accused him of implementing fiscal policy that helped create a $6 billion state shortfall.

Gilmore said there was no deficit when he ended his term and that he delivered a balanced budget. He also noted that Warner promised not to increase taxes when running for governor but later instituted the largest tax increase in state history.

Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate in The Washington Times Sep 19, 2008

On Budget & Economy: Banking crisis caused by too many asleep at the switch in DC

When the debate turned to the crisis on Wall Street, Gilmore and Warner both said they would support an increase in regulation, even if it meant bigger government. “We have to have more oversight,” Gilmore said.

Warner said the problems in banking and the mortgage business were caused by “too many people asleep at the switch in Washington. Everyone was looking at the next quarterly profits, and no one had a long-term plan,” he said.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in Washington Post Sep 19, 2008

On Corporations: Financial crisis stems from companies over-borrowing

The two candidates agreed that the country needs more oversight in its financial sector, following the recent crisis on Wall Street.

Gilmore said the situation stems from companies allowing too much borrowing against too little assets. “We simply have to have more oversight right now to make sure that people understand that they can’t operate their businesses that way against the public interest,” he said.

Warner faulted Washington and Wall Street for being “asleep at the switch.” He said the country should look at Britain’s use of a single financial regulator as a possible model to fix the current crisis. “If there was ever a time to send somebody to Washington that can read a balance sheet... it’s now,” Warner said.

Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate in The Washington Times Sep 19, 2008

On Crime: Endorsed by Virginia Police Benevolent Association

Warner’s speech was followed by a news conference in which he was endorsed by about 30 law enforcement officials as well as the Virginia Police Benevolent Association. Warner was endorsed last month by the Virginia Fraternal Order of Police. Floyd County Sheriff Shannon Zeman, a Republican, said that despite his party affiliation, he’s supporting Warner, calling him “a friend of mine, a friend of law enforcement.”
Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in The Roanoke Times Sep 19, 2008

On Crime: Initiated statewide Amber Alert system

Both men started out by citing what they’d done to boost law enforcement during their respective political careers. “It’s easy to stand up here and say I support you. The best evidence of that is not the talk, but the actions when you have the opportunity,” Warner said. He said he’d shown that support by helping initiate the statewide Amber Alert system, investing in a new radio system, toughening anti-drunken-driving laws and helping to fund salaries with the hard-fought 2004 budget.
Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in The Roanoke Times Sep 19, 2008

On Drugs: Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production

Washington County Sheriff Fred Newman credited Warner’s 2005 executive order that required certain over-the-counter decongestants be placed behind the counter in stores with helping to slow the production of methamphetamine in Southwest Virginia. Warner had mentioned the executive order in his speech, touting it as only one of many things he’d done to support law enforcement agencies.
Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in The Roanoke Times Sep 19, 2008

On Energy & Oil: Opposes drilling ANWR; but OK to drill offshore

Gilmore tried to distinguish his energy policy from Warner’s by insisting the Democrat would oppose offshore drilling. Warner has said he would be in favor of allowing states to explore the possibility of drilling off their shores. He said “we need more drilling off the coast.” However, the candidates continue to differ on drilling in the ANWR: Gilmore favors it, while Warner opposes the practice.
Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate in The Washington Times Sep 19, 2008

On Foreign Policy: Pakistan could emerge as world’s most dangerous nation

Warner, who does not have a background in foreign affairs, said he believes Pakistan could one day emerge as “the most dangerous nation” in the world. “The challenge with the Pakistanis is one day they’re helping us and the next they’re indirectly funneling help to the Taliban,” said Warner, who also raised concerns about Iran’s nuclear capabilities.
Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in Washington Post Sep 19, 2008

On Gun Control: Strong defender of the Second Amendment

Noting that he has been a strong defender of the Second Amendment, Warner said he agrees with efforts in Congress to seize control of the District’s handgun regulation. Warner agreed with Gilmore that D.C. officials appear to be trying to get around the Supreme Court ruling that the city’s ban on handguns was unconstitutional.
Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in Washington Post Sep 19, 2008

On Principles & Values: End partisan gridlock; embrace common ground

Gilmore staked out strong conservative positions & Warner sought to embrace the center, including supporting gun rights in the District.

They agreed that voters have a clear choice when it comes to personality and leadership styles. Gilmore said he would be a conservative voice in the Democratic-controlled Congress.

Warner argued that he has the experience to end years of partisan gridlock on Capitol Hill and that Virginia voters are ready to embrace his philosophy of seeking common ground.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in Washington Post Sep 19, 2008

On Tax Reform: Roll back top-tier tax breaks

Gilmore tried to portray Mark Warner as the mirror image of Barack Obama. “We have to put together an energy policy, financial policies that will do the right things for people, but Mark Warner wants to raise taxes; Barack Obama wants to raise taxes,” Gilmore said. “This is not going to be healthy for the economy in a time of stress.”

Warner said he has expressed support only for rolling back top-tier tax breaks by the Bush administration and is against tax increases on small businesses.

Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate in The Washington Times Sep 19, 2008

On Tax Reform: Pushed $1.4B tax increase to close $6B budget shortfall

Gilmore, whose signature achievement as governor was his effort to eliminate Virginia’s car tax, frequently mentioned that Warner pushed through a $1.4 billion tax increase in 2004. The car tax never was fully revoked because of budget restraints.

Warner countered that the tax increase was needed to close a $6 billion budget shortfall that he said he inherited from Gilmore. Gilmore said he left office with a balanced budget. Gilmore said Warner’s tax increase did little to help road-building, and they were proof that Warner would support higher federal taxes as well. “Taxes are coming at us like a freight train,” Gilmore said. Gilmore was referring to Obama’s proposal to roll back Bush’s tax cuts on the wealthiest Americans. Warner said he supports eliminating those tax cuts as a way of reducing the federal deficit.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in Washington Post Sep 19, 2008

On War & Peace: Withdraw from Iraq but no arbitrary timeline

The two men differed on foreign policy: Warner said he favors the withdrawal of troops from Iraq but not on an “arbitrary timeline.” He said he has not completely agreed with either Obama or McCain on the issue, but clarified that he previously stated troop withdrawal should begin in January. Gilmore said there should be no timeline for troop withdrawal.
Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate in The Washington Times Sep 19, 2008

On War & Peace: Redeploy troops to Afghanistan; focus on Pakistan & Iran

Warner said the country is facing the need to redeploy troops to Afghanistan. He said Pakistan, along with Iran, is one of the most dangerous countries in the world because of its “potential threat.” He softened the statement after the debate and said Pakistan is “a potential flashpoint” in world affairs.
Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate in The Washington Times Sep 19, 2008

On War & Peace: No timetable to end war in Iraq

Gilmore said he would support pursuing the war in Iraq to completion. Warner said he would not set a timeline for troops to come home from Iraq. But Gilmore accused Warner of changing his stance from last year, when he said troops should start to leave i January 2009. Gilmore said the troops should stay as long as needed. “Any kind of timetable is not responsible,” he said. “This is not the way to be conducting foreign policy in Iraq.”
Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in Washington Post Sep 19, 2008

On Education: Home-schooling is ok; my sister home-schools her kids

Gilmore accused Warner of describing the Christian Coalition, the National Rifle Association, home-schoolers and antiabortion activists as “threatening to what it means to be a American” during a 1994 speech to the National Jewish Democratic Council.

Warner, who was executive director of the Virginia Democratic Party when those comments were allegedly made, responded by noting that his sister home-schools her children and that he has long had a reputation for being a supporter of gun rights.

Source: 2008 VA Senate debate reported in Washington Post Sep 2, 2008

On Energy & Oil: Offshore drilling is acceptable but not the “silver bullet”

GILMORE: [to Warner]: The difference between Mark Warner and myself rests with the part of the energy plan that will help people immediately. And that means we have to have more domestic oil production and free ourselves from the people overseas. We have to be prepared to drill in ANWR. We have to be prepared to drill offshore. And oil prices will go down if the US has a decisive energy policy.

WARNER: My position is that Congress should lift the moratorium on offshore drilling and leave that decision to the states. I don’t believe we should be drilling in ANWR. Because Congress set it aside as a pristine area and similar to Senator McCain’s position, I see the dangers. But where I disagree with Jim is that this is somehow the silver bullet. America has 3% of the world’s oil and we use 25% of the world’s oil. Drilling alone isn’t going to solve the whole problem. Investing in alternative energy is going to provide more immediate relief.

Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate between Jim Gilmore and Mark Warner Jul 19, 2008

On Energy & Oil: Vetoed offshore drilling ban until more laws & facts known

RHETORIC: Gilmore: “You said in your veto that you would not in fact exercise that state authority to begin to explore for oil back in 2005.”

REALITY: Governor Warner’s veto message on the 2005 offshore drilling ban called on the state to monitor “federal developments on domestic energy production,” as part of a larger state study. Warner vetoed the bill because it encroached on the role of the Governor to direct the activities of the Virginia Liaison Office and directed the Commonwealth to advocate for federal legislation that has yet to be introduced. [Warner Veto Message, 3/29/05]

In January 2006, a study prepared for Governor Warner and state legislators “recommended that Virginia allow offshore exploration for natural gas and oil deposits but take precautions to protect the environment.” The study “suggested that drilling take place at least 50 miles from the coast and that no pipelines or other equipment be placed ashore.” [Washington Post, 4/6/06]

Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate: analysis by Warner campaign Jul 19, 2008

On Jobs: Gilmore opposed helping Tultex, despite Assembly’s support

RHETORIC: Warner: “In Southside, even when the legislature wanted to provide extra economic benefits [to displaced Tultex workers], [Gilmore] wouldn’t...”

Gilmore: “That’s a mischaracterization of what I did with the Tultex people in Southside.”

REALITY: The legislation would have paid for health insurance for the unemployed workers, including 3,300 Tultex Corp. employees in Henry County who lost their jobs when the giant sweatshirt maker declared bankruptcy. Gilmore said he had no choice but to veto the assembly’s plan, describing it as a “health care benefit entitlement, but only for displaced textile workers in the Martinsville area.” [Richmond Times-Dispatch, 5/20/00]

Taking their cue from Gov. Gilmore, Republicans kept legislation to help unemployed textile workers bottled up in committee. The bill had bipartisan support before Gilmore weighed in. [One legislator] said. “There’s only one person who is diametrically opposed to this, and he’s the governor.” [AP, 2/12/00]

Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate: analysis by Warner campaign Jul 19, 2008

On Principles & Values: Replace name-calling with bipartisan management

Is it all about partisan name calling and back and forth? Virginians want politicians who will bring people together and focus on critical issues and get results. We’ll probably hear more name calling--but name calling doesn’t get results.

Look at how we approached the budget when we were both governor. Jim Gilmore promised to end the car tax. But it ended up costing three times more than what he said. He used budget gimmicks, tried to hide the problem, and drove Virginia into the fiscal ditch. When I inherited the problem, which grew to a $6 billion shortfall, I leveled with the people, made the hard cuts, reformed state governments, and brought republicans and democrats together, to bring about bipartisan budge and tax reform.

Virginia became the best managed state in the nation. So if you want a senator who will work on budget and the economy and has a proven track record of results, I’d ask you to hire me and bring our country back on the right path.

Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate between Jim Gilmore and Mark Warner Jul 19, 2008

On Tax Reform: Vetoed offshore drilling ban until more laws & facts known

RHETORIC: Gilmore: “Your Secretary of Finance John Bennett sent you a letter and reported in February [of 2004] and said ‘Guess what? Revenues are climbing’...Why didn’t you tell the people of Virginia what you knew and what you were being told so that tax increase could have gone forward with all the facts available and probably would have never been enacted. Why didn’t you tell the people of Virginia what you were being told by your own people?“

REALITY: The update to the Joint Finance Committee letters are public, e-mailed to all General Assembly members, and posted on the web just after the Governor receives it. The monthly revenue reports also are widely reported by the media

Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate: analysis by Warner campaign Jul 19, 2008

On Tax Reform: Gilmore promised car tax repeal at $620M; but it cost $2B

RHETORIC: Gilmore said, “It is not true that the car tax cost three times as much [in its repeal as Warner said it would when he was running for Governor].”

REALITY: While running for governor in 1997, Gilmore promised Virginia voters that his car tax repeal would cost no more than $620 million and would not require any cuts in core services. By the time Gilmore left, he cut millions from necessary programs and the car tax repeal was creating a nearly $2 billion hole in Virginia’s budget. [AP, 4/30/04

Source: 2008 VA Senate Debate: analysis by Warner campaign Jul 19, 2008

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