ABC This Week interviews during 2015: on War & Peace


John Kasich: No-fly zone 1st priority, but ok with more aid for refugees

Q: Ben Carson is saying what we need to do is give more money to Jordan and other places to help Syrian refugees. Is that the answer?

KASICH: I don't mind if we give some humanitarian aid to the Jordanians or the Saudis if need be, but I've been for this no-fly zone so that we can have a sanctuary for people to be safe. And it was the Kurds and perhaps the Jordanians who could defend it. But the Russians have now deployed S-400 air defense system that threatens our ability to move around. The only thing you can do with that air defense system is to take it out. And of course that's very serious.

Q: You would take out a Russian air defense system?

KASICH: No, I think that we should proceed with moving forward on a no-fly zone. And I think we should proceed by putting boots on the ground and a coalition with Europeans and with our friends in the Middle East like we had in the first Gulf War to destroy ISIS once and for all.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview on Syrian Refugee crisis Nov 29, 2015

John Kasich: Invading force but no occupying force in Syria

Q: You called for boots on the ground in Syria before. You're talking about an invading force? An occupying force?

KASICH: No, I'm not talking about an occupying force, I'm talking about a coalition that looks awfully like the coalition we had in the first Gulf War. It would involve our friends in the Middle East who want to contribute, also to our NATO allies, because we're not going to solve this problem with ISIS by just sitting back and delaying or dithering, which is what we've done.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Nov 29, 2015

Marco Rubio: Civilian causalities unfortunate but inevitable

Q: One of your rivals, Senator Ted Cruz, said over the weekend that we have to dramatically ramp up the airstrikes, even if it means more civilian casualties. Your take?

RUBIO: I don't think any nation on Earth takes more pains in avoiding civilian casualties than the United States. The reality, unfortunately, is that many of these terrorist groups deliberately operate from the center of civilian areas, because they want there to be civilian casualties for propaganda use. We've seen that as well used by the enemies of Israel on repeated occasions. Obviously, we're going to take great pains to avoid civilian casualties, but at the end of the day, no one has killed more civilians and more innocents here than ISIS has. And although we'll take extraordinary steps to avoid civilian casualties, there is, of course, no guarantee, especially, given the fact, that you're operating against these individuals, who have no regard for human life.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Nov 15, 2015

Marco Rubio: Declare war on ISIS, fight via Sunni tribes and Kurds

Q: The president's assistant said that the terrorist attack in Paris was an act of war by ISIL. What do you think the president should be doing right now?

RUBIO: This is clearly an act of war on one of our NATO allies and we should invoke Article 5 of the NATO agreement and bring everyone together to put together a coalition to confront this challenge.

Q: The question is how--Senator Lindsey Graham, says put 10,000 troops on the ground.

RUBIO: I think it's premature to say the exact numbers. I think that we need to begin to work more closely with the Sunni tribes in Iraq who do not want to work under the thumb of the central government in Iraq as well as the Kurds. The only way to ultimately defeat ISIS is for them to be defeated ideologically and militarily, by Sunnis themselves. But we are going to have to increase special operations attacks, targeting ISIS leadership and revealing that they are not invincible.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Nov 15, 2015

Bernie Sanders: Form Muslim-led coalition to defeat ISIS

Q: You opposed Obama's new decision to put Special Operations boots on the ground in Syria. But the threat seems to be expanding, not receding. How would you counter it?

SANDERS: What the president is trying to do is to thread a very difficult needle. He's trying to defeat ISIS. He's trying to get rid of this horrendous dictator, Assad. But at the same time, he doesn't want our troops stuck on the ground. And I agree with that. But I am maybe a little bit more conservative on this than he is. I worry that once we get sucked into this, once some of our troops get killed and once maybe a plane gets shot down, that we send more in and more in. But I will say this. ISIS must be defeated primarily by the Muslim nations in that region. America can't do it all. And we need an international coalition. Russia should be part of it--U.K., France, the entire world--supporting Muslim troops on the ground, fighting for the soul of Islam and defeating this terrible ISIS organization.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview by Martha Raddatz Nov 8, 2015

Donald Trump: Let Russia make moves in Syria; it's a quagmire

Q: Let's turn to ISIS and what should the United States do about it?

TRUMP: But we're going to have to do something very strong over there. We're going to have to take away the energy, the fuel, the money from ISIS, because, in the case of ISIS-- I've been saying this for years. We have to stop the source of money. And the source of money is oil.

Q: So you'd step up the campaign against ISIS even though you believe that Vladimir Putin is getting stuck in a quagmire by going in?

TRUMP: Well, I'm not looking to quagmire, I'm looking to take the oil. The Middle East is one big, fat quagmire. If you look at the Soviet Union, it used to be the Soviet Union. They essentially went bust and it became Russia, a much smaller version, because of Afghanistan. They spent all their money. Now they're going into Syria. I'm all for Russia going in and knocking and dropping bombs on ISIS. As far as I'm concerned, we don't have to have exclusivity on that.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview by Martha Raddatz Nov 8, 2015

Ben Carson: Counter countries propping up Assad: Russia and Iran

Q: You saw the president's plan to put 50 special operations forces on the ground in Syria. Do you agree with the plan?

CARSON: I think that's a move in the right direction, because we clearly need to have those special ops in terms of helping to guide what the Air Force is doing. But I think that that's only a small part of it; we need to have a much bigger plan when it comes to battling the global jihadist.

Q: What is your much bigger plan for Syria?

CARSON: Well, my plan involves Putin and Iran. Those are the forces that are propping up the Assad regime. And even though Putin came in there and said he was going to fight ISIS, he's really fighting the anti-Assad forces. What we need to be thinking about is how do we oppose him? First of all, look where most the refugees are, at the Turkey-Syrian border. I think we should establish a no-fly zone there. We should be doing this in communication with Putin to try to decrease the likelihood of conflict and keeping the forces apart.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview by Martha Raddatz Nov 1, 2015

Ben Carson: Maintain U.S. military presence in Afghanistan

Q: You've said that you would maintain the military presence in Afghanistan, as President Obama announced this week?

CARSON: Yes, I would. I think we saw what happened in Iraq when we precipitously withdrew. I don't think that we want to make that mistake again. And I'm very happy to see that we have a learning curve there.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview by Martha Raddatz Oct 18, 2015

Bernie Sanders: Diplomacy and coalition-building before unilateral action

Q: You were asked about when you would authorize the use of force. You went on to say, "I do not support the U.S. getting involved in unilateral action." So there are no circumstances where you would authorize unilateral action?

SANDERS: Well, I'm not going to get into hypotheticals, but I would say that Bush's decision to get us into a war in Iraq unilaterally was one of the worst foreign policy blunders in the history of the US. I think sensible foreign policy and military policies suggest that it cannot be the US alone which solves all of the world's [problems].

Q: In all circumstances?

SANDERS: I didn't say in all circumstances. But I think that there's a lesson to be learned from Iraq and Afghanistan, then what a great military power like the United States is about is trying to use diplomacy before war and working with other countries rather than doing it alone. At the end of the day, a military coalition is what will succeed, not the US doing it alone.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview by Martha Raddatz Oct 18, 2015

Bernie Sanders: Keep U.S. troops on the ground in Afghanistan

Q: President Obama announced this week that he would keep almost 10,000 troops in Afghanistan through next year; more than 5,000 after that. You heard Ben Carson say he supports that decision, so does Hillary Clinton. Do you?

SANDERS: Well, yeah, I won't give you the exact number. Clearly, we do not want to see the Taliban gain more power and I think we need a certain nucleus of American troops present in Afghanistan to try to provide the training and support the Afghan Army needs.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview by Martha Raddatz Oct 18, 2015

Bobby Jindal: No-fly zone in Syria, to support Syrian rebels

Q: You supported training Syrian rebels and that has been a complete failure. So what would work?

JINDAL: If they had aggressively trained those rebels and the Kurds in the beginning, we'd be in a different place. You wouldn't have Putin and Assad working with Hezbollah and Iran. We need to create a no-fly zone, working with the Turkish and other allies.

Q: ISIS doesn't have aircraft. So, what would that no-fly zone really accomplish?

JINDAL: It accomplishes a couple of things. Number one, it helps to stabilize the region, so you don't have all these refugees flooding into Europe. Secondly, it gives us space for moderates, for Kurds and others, to group and to plan attacks against ISIS, against Assad. Third, it keeps Russia from bombing our allies. We're here because this president drew a red line, didn't enforce it. We're here because this president has put political handcuffs on the military, won't let them go after ISIS and get the job done.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview by Martha Raddatz Oct 11, 2015

Bobby Jindal: U.S. ground troops to wipe out ISIS

Q: Would you send in and how many troops approximately into Syria, U.S. troops?

JINDAL: Well, I don't think you take any option off the table. If the military says we need ground troops to wipe out ISIS, as commander in chief, you have got to be open to that option. These are radical Islamic terrorists, we can't negotiate with them. We have got to hunt them down and kill them.

Q: You don't think that's what they're doing now? We've had thousands and thousands of airstrikes.

JINDAL: I don't think we have fought this war. No, I disagree. I think if this president were serious, we could wipe them out. I think there are more things that we can be doing. I think our military could be much more effective.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview by Martha Raddatz Oct 11, 2015

Donald Trump: Good that Russia has entered Syrian conflict

Q: We've seen Russia go heavily into Syria this week. Yesterday, Hillary Clinton; today, John Kasich; both say we should establish a no-fly zone in Syria. Would you do that?

TRUMP: I don't think so. I think what I want to do is I want to sit back and I want to see what happens. You know, Russia got bogged down, when it was the Soviet Union, in Afghanistan. They thought that would be quick and easy and they'll go in and they'll clean it up...

Q: You think Putin's falling into a trap?

TRUMP: I think it's not going to be great for them, there are so many traps. There are so many problems. When I heard they were going in to fight ISIS, I said, "Great."

Q: But they're not bombing ISIS.

TRUMP: Well, not yet. But they don't want ISIS going into Russia, either. So they're not bombing them yet.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview by Martha Raddatz Oct 4, 2015

Bernie Sanders: Middle Eastern countries must contribute to fight ISIS

The US cannot defeat this evil alone. In the Middle East, Saudi Arabia has the third largest military budget in the entire world. They're going to have to get in and take on ISIS as well as other countries in that region. The US should be supportive; we should be working with other countries. But we cannot always be the only country involved in these wars.
Source: ABC This Week 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Aug 30, 2015

Carly Fiorina: US must provide resources & leadership in fight against ISIS

I find the foreign policy of Secretary of State Clinton and President Obama entirely inconsistent. So we've done nothing in Syria. We really are sitting by when we could be leading a coalition of Arab allies to defeat ISIS. I disagree that we're at that point where we need to put tens of thousands of boots on the ground.

I think the Jordanians, the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, the Kurds and the Egyptians are all fighting ISIS, as we speak, on the ground. They know this is their fight. Yes, they need leadership, resolve support and material from us. We haven't provided any of it. And if we did, it will make a big difference.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Aug 16, 2015

Martin O`Malley: Radical terrorism and nuclear Iran are interconnected

Q: What is the number one national security threat to America right now and what would you do to fix it?

O`MALLEY: The greatest danger that we face right now on a consistent basis in terms of manmade threats is nuclear Iran and related to that, extremist violence. I don't think you can separate the two. I think they go together. We have to confront both of these issues, and it starts with supporting the president in achieving that negotiated settlement.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Mar 29, 2015

Ted Cruz: Focused, direct military objective of destroying ISIS

Q: You've said that the answer is to bomb ISIS back to the Stone Age. Most experts say that will not be enough, that you will need ground forces as well. Would you call up American forces if others don't step up?

CRUZ: We have boots on the ground already with the Kurds. But our government is not providing military weapons effectively to the Kurds. Instead, they're shuttling it all to Baghdad, and Baghdad is very slow in getting it to the Kurds.

Q: But if that's not enough, would you be willing to send American ground troops into that battle?

CRUZ: Look, we need to accomplish the mission and the mission should be defeating ISIS before they succeed in carrying out more horrific acts of terror. If need be, we should go that step. The problem is, right now, the Obama-Clinton-Kerry foreign policy has been consistently wrong on ISIS. Our photo-op foreign policy, where we drop a bomb here or a missile there. We need a focused, direct military objective of taking out and destroying ISIS.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Feb 8, 2015

Scott Walker: ISIS will attack on American soil; so take fight abroad

Q: You talk about big, bold, fresh ideas. What is your big, bold, fresh idea in Syria?

WALKER: Well, I'd go back to the red line [that Obama defined against use of chemical weapons].

Q: Let's not go back. Let's go forward. What is your big, bold idea in Syria?

WALKER: I think aggressively, we need to take the fight to ISIS and any other radical Islamic terrorist in and around the world, because it's not a matter of IF they attempt an attack on American soil, but it's WHEN. We need leadership that says clearly, not only amongst the United States but amongst our allies, that we're willing to take appropriate action. I think it should be surgical.

Q: You don't think 2,000 air strikes is taking it to ISIS in Syria and Iraq?

WALKER: I think we need to have an aggressive strategy anywhere around the world.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Feb 1, 2015

Scott Walker: Don't rule out US boots on the ground in Syria

Q: What should we do about ISIS in Syria and Iraq?

WALKER: I think we need to have an aggressive strategy anywhere around the world.

Q: I don't know what "aggressive" strategy means.

WALKER: I think anywhere and everywhere, we have to go beyond just aggressive air strikes. We have to look at other surgical methods. And ultimately, we have to be prepared to put boots on the ground if that's what it takes, because I think--

Q: Boots on the ground in Syria? U.S. boots on the ground in Syria?

WALKER: I don't think that is an immediate plan, but I think anywhere in the world--

Q: But you would not rule that out?

WALKER: I wouldn't rule anything out. I think when you have the lives of Americans at stake and our freedom loving allies anywhere in the world, we have to be prepared to do things that don't allow those measures, those attacks, those abuses to come to our shores.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Feb 1, 2015

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