CBS "Face the Nation" interviews during 2015: on War & Peace


Jeb Bush: No-fly zone in Syria; arm Kurds; establish Sunni coalition

Q: How is your strategy to defeat ISIS any faster or more effective than the current one?

BUSH: I would say a no-fly zone, creating safe zones in Syria, directly arming the Kurds in Iraq, reengaging both politically and militarily with the Sunnis - the Sunni tribal leaders who were effective partners in the creation of the surge. Have our troops be embedded with the Iraqi military. But, basically, all of this needs to be a strategy, not just one-off kind of incremental decisions being made by this president who wants to run out the clock. The strategy ought to be, how do we destroy ISIS and how do we create stability in the aftermath? And, right now, we have neither.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 coverage:2016 presidential hopefuls Nov 29, 2015

Jeb Bush: Send troops to Syria to then remain to maintain stability

Q: One of the things the president has said is that his military advisers have told him that if you were going to put U.S. troops in Syria and Iraq, they would have to stay as an occupational force. Is that wrong?

BUSH: I think it is wrong. I think that had we kept a small force in Iraq, we wouldn't have the mess that we have right now.

Q: You want troops to go in, but then everybody agrees there need to be some kind of stability afterwards. If 10,000 was a good sustaining force in Iraq after all the activities, but this is a totally new adventure, it would seem that upwards of 10,000 troops would be necessary for the kind of engagement you're talking about.

BUSH: If I'm commander in chief, my first order is, give me options, and if the military says that we need a fighting force of X- thousand, and this is the best way to destroy ISIS, then I would take that under advisement for sure.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 coverage:2016 presidential hopefuls Nov 29, 2015

Lindsey Graham: Military commitment of regional troops in Syria is necessary

Q: Do you think the American people are ready for a military commitment in Syria to take out ISIS and Assad?

GRAHAM: They better be, because if we don't destroy ISIL in Syria, which is their headquarters, we're going to get attacked at home. The entire region wants Assad gone, so there's an opportunity here with some American leadership to do two things, which is to destroy ISIL before we get hit at home and also to push Assad out and not give yet another Arab capital to Damascus.

Q: Robert Kagan wrote that the kind of operation that you are recommending could require 40,000 - 50,000 troops.

GRAHAM: I think it will require more than that, but the good news,10% of the force will come from Western powers. The force that we're talking about will come from regional armies from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey. They have regional armies. They would go into the fight if you put Assad on the table. They will pay for this war.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 coverage:2016 presidential hopefuls Nov 29, 2015

Lindsey Graham: Regional, not US, army would keep stability in Syria

Q: The President says, because there is no ground force, military advisers tell him that it would require an occupational U.S. force. And that is a recipe for lots forces for a long period of time. What is your response to that?

GRAHAM: I haven't been told that by anybody. The holding force would be the region. We're talking about region coming together with a Western component, 90 percent them, 10 percent us. The holding will be done by Sunni Arab states. We will turn to Assad and say, you must go. Russia and Iran will be on the outside looking in to an entire regional army, including Turkey, with Western elements. They will fold like a cheap suit.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 coverage:2016 presidential hopefuls Nov 29, 2015

Rand Paul: Only Sunni-Shiite coalition forces, not US, in Syria

Q: You have consistently been cautioning your party about overseas military involvements. But has the growth of ISIS changed your mindset in terms of this argument that you've got to go get them there?

PAUL: I think the first thing we have to do is learn from our history. In the past several decades, if there's one true thing in the Middle East, it's that when we've toppled secular dictators, we've gotten chaos and the rise of radical Islam. So if we want a long lasting victory and peace, the boots on the ground are going to have to be Arab, and you're going to have to have Sunni Muslims defeating Sunni Muslims because even the Shiite Muslims can't occupy these Sunni cities. ISIS is essentially surrounded, but what we have to do is, we do need a ceasefire in Syria, and probably Russia's going to be part of that solution if we're willing to talk with them, but we also need to engage Turkey on one side. We need to engage the Kurds on one side.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 coverage:2016 presidential hopefuls Nov 22, 2015

Marco Rubio: Boots on ground in Syria; coordinate with Kurds

Q: The US is sending 50 special operations forces into Syria. Is that enough?

RUBIO: Well, it's an important start. I think the broader issue is, what is the strategy? And I think the strategy has to involve more coordination with the Kurds and also with Sunnis, because you're not going to defeat ISIS, a radical Sunni movement, without a robust anti-ISIS Sunni coalition. So, I do think it's important tactical step forward. It needs to be backed up with increased airstrikes and so forth.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 interview by Bob Schieffer Nov 1, 2015

Donald Trump: Strengthen military, but act defensively

Q: You say, in personal relations, you're a counterpuncher. You don't hit until you are hit. Is that a good way to think about the way you would use military force as a president?

TRUMP: I'm the most militaristic person on your show. I want to have a much stronger military. I want it to be so strong that nobody is going to mess with us. I want to take care of our vets, who are treated terribly, like third-class citizens.

Q: Well, let's take an example of some case where you may or may not use military force. It turns out Assad apparently used chemical weapons on his own people.

TRUMP: Well, you know, the time to have done it would have been when he drew the line in the sand.

Q: So, you would have done it in that case?

TRUMP: I might have gone in. Now it's such a mess over there, with everybody involved, and the airspace is very limited. It's not that big of an area. The airspace is very limited. So are we going to start World War III over Syria?

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 interview by Bob Schieffer Oct 11, 2015

Rand Paul: Keep on mind on Iran nukes but don't trust the ayatollahs

Q: This controversy about a U.S.-Iran nuclear development agreement--this seems totally bogged down in partisan politics.

PAUL: Occasionally, I can be partisan, but, on this, I don't think I would jump to the conclusion that, all of a sudden, the ayatollah of Iran is telling the truth, and my government is lying to us. Now, the biggest problem we have right now is that every time there is a hint of an agreement, the Iranian foreign minister tweets out in English that the agreement doesn't mean what our government says it means. So I keep an open mind as to who is telling the truth. It is very, very damaging to the American public, and to the details of this agreement, if we can't trust the sincerity or the credibility of the Iranian government

Q: So, at this point, you have an open mind about this?

PAUL: Yes. I want peace. I want negotiations. I don't want another war. But I also want a good agreement.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 coverage:2016 presidential hopefuls Apr 12, 2015

Mike Huckabee: Arm the Kurds to fight ISIS, plus U.S. bombing

Q: On ISIS, you have said it is a rattlesnake and compared it to a cancer. What would you do to defeat ISIS?

HUCKABEE: Well, first of all, we should have been long ago arming the Kurds. They're the most reliable force that we have in the Middle East, especially in the northern part of Iraq, that is willing and ready to fight ISIS and to do it without American blood being spilled. We have not kept our promise to the Kurds. The second thing we should do is make sure that, wherever there's an ISIS target, that we bomb the daylights out of it. We make it unpopular to join ISIS, because we need to let them know, they basically sign on to a death sentence if they want to join this hideous, savage, uncivilized group of people who think it's OK to burn people alive and cut their heads off, and not only to do it, but I think what is most despicable is that they are proud of it: They videotape it. They show it to the world. They want us to see what they do. And that makes it even more horrifying.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 coverage:2016 presidential hopefuls Mar 1, 2015

Mike Huckabee: US boots on the ground to fight ISIS ok, if others join too

Q: Where are you on the question of boots on the ground to fight ISIS? Some 2016 candidates are supporting that idea, U.S. boots.

HUCKABEE: We don't leave anything off the table. But if they're going to be boots, they have to be more than just U.S. boots. There's got to be some boots that from come from the Saudis, the Jordanians and others.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 coverage:2016 presidential hopefuls Mar 1, 2015

Donald Trump: Hit ISIS hard and fast

From the dispute over funding the Department of Homeland Security ("the answer is 'we're going to fund, we're going to keep doing it"), to repealing ObamaCare ("which is a total lie"), Trump just wants to see a more aggressive approach.

When asked about ISIS, Trump said he "would hit them so hard and so fast that they wouldn't know what happened." He later claimed his approach would be one that historical military figures General Douglas McArthur and General George Patton would approve of.

Source: CBS News on 2015 Conservative Political Action Conf. Feb 27, 2015

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