Sunday Political Talk Show interviews during 2015: on Immigration


Lawrence Lessig: Promise the hardest workers that they can become citizens

America needs to respect the equality of citizens and end--finally--the second class status that too many Americans know. It needs an immigration policy that promises some of the hardest working Americans that they can become citizens. But unlike Clinton and Sanders and O'Malley, I'm willing to tell America the truth about these urgent and important needs.
Source: Politico Magazine 2015 article by 2016 presidential hopeful Oct 1, 2015

Jeb Bush: Prove border is secure, while doing comprehensive reform

Q: In your 2013 book on immigration, you say that pushing for an "enforce the border first" policy is, in your words, "self-defeating," that you're going to need a path to legalization as part of a compromise if you're going to get anything through Congress. Is that still your position?

BUSH: I think you can do both, but the first step is to prove that the border is secure. I mean, you could have a conversation about comprehensive reform while you're doing your job. This president committed to comprehensive reform and has done nothing and he hasn't enforced the border to the satisfaction of anybody that's looked at this issue.

Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 Coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Sep 27, 2015

John Kasich: Focus of immigration should be to keep families together

Q: You were giving an impassioned talk about inclusiveness, which I know is important to you. But you ended up discussing tipping a Latino hotel maid for giving you extra soap. Hillary Clinton responded on Twitter: "Talking about Latinos doesn't just mean talking about tips." Do you regret your remarks?

KASICH: Look, I have to be clear about it. I'm just trying to say that, in the course of a presidential campaign, I'm glad that I don't move so fast that I ignore people. And my views on our Hispanic friends across this country have been very positive. They are impactful in so many different ways. My position on immigration has been on that is intended to keep families together and to give them a good place in American society. I have great respect for [Latinos]. I think they are an important fabric of America.

Source: CNN SOTU 2015 interview series: 2016 presidential hopefuls Sep 20, 2015

John Kasich: Latino immigrants will continue to play critical role in US

Q: You said "A lot of [immigrants] do jobs that they're willing to do, and that's why in the hotel you a leave a little tip." Some groups took offense, feeling that you were stereotyping Latino immigrants.

KASICH: The head of the Hispanic Chamber said he appreciated my comments. And as you know, having followed me through this race, I've had a very reasonable position on immigration. I've always said that Hispanics are such a critical part of the fabric of the United States. They occupy jobs from top to bottom. They're God fearing and they're hard working. And if I need to clarify what I meant by that, I'm more than glad to do it. And that means that they hold very important positions. I've got a friend who's a doctor in oncology. I mean, that shows you how crazy it can get in this business. But to be clear, I believe that, from top to bottom, Hispanics play a critical role in America, not only today, but going forward.

Source: Meet the Press 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Sep 20, 2015

Ben Carson: Taking in Middle Eastern refugees could be dangerous

Q: Many European countries have offered asylum to refugees from Syria and other areas in the Middle East. How would you handle the refugee crisis right now?

CARSON: I would recognize that bringing in people from the Middle East right now carries extra danger. And we have to be extra cautious. You know, we need to tighten it up and be very careful, because we cannot put our people at risk because we're trying to be politically correct.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Sep 13, 2015

John Kasich: Focus on border & guest workers, not birthright citizenship

Q: In your 2010 campaign for Governor, you were quoted as saying that you would amend the Constitution to end birthright citizenship. But more recently, you said leave the Constitution alone, let them be citizens. Why the change?

KASICH: The 14th amendment makes it clear that when you're born here you become a citizen. So bringing up that issue, because we do need to build the fence to protect our border, have reasonable guest worker program so people can come in and out, that lawbreakers go to prison or are deported, and the rest of the people pay a fine, they wait and they can be legalized. I think that's something the American people would support and I think it's something that could pass Congress. I'm interested in getting things done, not just banging on the podium, being an ideologue and making statements.

Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Sep 13, 2015

Chris Christie: Use modern technology to track illegal immigrants

Q: You're getting blowback this weekend because you suggested that we should track foreigners who were in this country on visas and they overstay them the same way that FedEx tracks packages. And critics are saying, "People aren't packages".

CHRISTIE: They're not, my point was that this is again a situation where the private sector laps us in the government with the use of technology. Let's use the same type of technology to make sure that 40 percent of the 11 million people here illegally don't overstay their visas. If FedEx can do it, why can't we use the same technology? And we should bring in the folks from FedEx to use the technology to be able to do it. There's nothing wrong with that. And I don't mean people are packages.

Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Aug 30, 2015

Ben Carson: Use drones to destroy smuggler hide-outs on Mexican border

Q: What did you mean when you said that the US should consider drone strikes to secure the border with Mexico?

A: I said that the drones are excellent for surveillance. In no way did I suggest that drones be used to kill people. We have a huge security risk [at the border], and it seems like we have not only the cartels to deal with, the drug smugglers, the people smugglers, but we have the federal government, which is not being helpful. Over the last couple of years, they have released 67,000 people.

Q: But you said that you were considering drone strikes on cartels down there at the border.

A: No, that's a lie. What I said is, it's possible that a drone could be used to destroy the caves that are utilized to hide people.

Q: Who would be hidden in these caves?

A: The scouts. There are caves that they utilize. Those caves can be eliminated. I am not talking about killing people. We have excellent military people and military strategists; we need to get them involved.

Source: CNN SOTU 2015 interview series: 2016 presidential hopefuls Aug 23, 2015

Donald Trump: The border wall will be well-managed and built correctly

Q: How is a Mexican wall even feasible?

TRUMP: I'm telling you, it's called management. You can do this and we can expedite the good immigrants to come back in. And everybody wants that. But they have to come in legally. We have to be a country of laws and borders. We have wonderful Border Patrol people, but they're not allowed to do their job. I will get the best people to build this wall and we will do it properly and we will do it humanely and get the good ones back in.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Aug 23, 2015

John Kasich: 1993: end birthright citizenship; 2015: not part of approach

Q: in 1993 you co-sponsored a bill in Congress that would take away "birth right citizenship": that is the citizenship automatically given to babies born in the US, even if they are born to undocumented immigrants. In 2010 you reiterated that, is that still your position?

A: First of all, we ought to finish the fence. The 11 million who are here, we ought to find out who they are. If they've been law abiding over a period of time they ought to be legalized and ought to be able to stay here. If you have violated the law, we're going to ship you out. Once that fence gets built, we should make it clear, anybody who sneaks in, you're going back home. And in addition we need a guest worker program so that people can come in and work and be able to go back to support their family.

Q: Would ending birthright citizenship be part of this larger immigration approach?

A: I don't think we need to go there.

Source: CNN SOTU 2015 interview series: 2016 presidential hopefuls Aug 9, 2015

Chris Christie: E-verify instead of building a physical wall

Q: What should be done about the 11 million or so immigrants that are already in the country?

A: There are not enough law enforcement officers, local, state and federal combined to forcibly deport 11 to 12 million people. This is like building a 2,000-mile wall across the border that Mexico is going to pay for. It sounds really good but the question is how? I think the way to do this is E-Verify. If folks new they weren't going to get jobs, they would not come.

Q: And what would you do with the 11 million who are here?

A: We're going to have to come up with a solution that's going to involve using E-Verify as well.

Source: CNN SOTU 2015 interview series: 2016 presidential hopefuls Aug 2, 2015

Bernie Sanders: Open borders for guest workers pushes down U.S. worker wages

Q: You said being a democratic socialist means a more international view. Does that include raising the level of immigration to a level of open borders?

A: Open borders? No, that's a Koch brothers proposal.

Q: Really?

A: Of course. That's a right- wing proposal, which says essentially there is no United States.

Q: But it would make a lot of global poor richer, wouldn't it?

A: It would make everybody in America poorer --you're doing away with the concept of a nation state, and I don't think there's any country in the world that believes in that. If you believe in a country called the United States or any other country, you have an obligation to do everything we can to help poor people. What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don't believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country, I think we have to do everything we can to create millions of jobs.

Source: Vox.com 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 28, 2015

Donald Trump: Building a wall will save money because it stops bad dudes

Q: Assuming President Trump is able to stop the flow of illegal immigration through building a wall or some parts of a wall, what do you think should be done with the estimated 11 million undocumented workers and their families already here? Would you be open-minded about a path to citizenship?

A: First of all--we have to stop it. We can do that with combinations of walls and Border Patrol. And it won't cost the kind of money--in fact, we will save money, because people that are coming in here that shouldn't be coming in here illegally. We have some really bad dudes right here in this country, and we're getting them out and we're sending them back to where they came from. And I don't mean Mexico; they come from all over. We have some real bad ones, and they're in our prisons that we're paying for.

Source: CNN SOTU 2015 interview series: 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 26, 2015

John Kasich: Seal the border with Mexico, support legal immigrants

Q: Do you support the Senate comprehensive compromise on immigration reform?

KASICH: What I support is a guest worker program expanded so people can come in and then go home. Seal the border. There are some interest groups that don't want the border to be sealed.

Q: What does "seal the border" mean, though?

KASICH: You do it with fencing and you do it with technology, drones and sensors. And, you know, Duncan Hunter in San Diego has significantly reduced the number of people coming across the border because of his initiatives on fencing. So do as best you can there. I've been told by grownups, real experts, that most of this can be done effectively. Guest worker program, the 12 million that are here, if they violated the law, they're going to have to pay a fine and pay a penalty for the fact that they violated the law. But, you know, if they're part of our culture now and society, and they're doing fine, they're hardworking, they're just like all of us, then I think they can stay.

Source: Meet the Press 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 26, 2015

Rand Paul: Secure border with Mexico; do away with sanctuary cities

When I think of immigration, I think that you do have to have a secure border, but I don't automatically think that immigrants are bad people. I think the opposite. I think of my great-grandfather, who came here from Germany, and I think that most immigrants come here seeking the American dream. And I'm not going to vilify all immigrants with a broad brush. I think there are some bad people--and I put in legislation on the sanctuary cities to try to make sure that never happens again, but I think by and large, the people who come to our country want the American dream.
Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 26, 2015

Marco Rubio: No green card for 10 years for current illegal immigrants

Q: Is it your position that a path to citizenship should be available to immigrants once securing the border and E-verify have been taken care of?

A: Yes. Before you can ever be a citizen, you have to be a permanent resident. That means a green card. And you have to be in that status for three to five years. And what I have argued is, if you have violated our laws, you should not be allowed to apply for a green card for at least 10 years. And then, when you apply for a green card, you should have to do it through the normal, regular process, not through a special process created for you. So it could take a long time for someone to ultimately apply for citizenship. But I think that's a fair way to do it. It should not be cheaper or faster to become a citizen by having come here illegally.

Source: CNN SOTU 2015 interview series: 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 19, 2015

Martin O`Malley: Help people immigrate to our nation of immigrants

"We are, and always have been, a nation of immigrants and our immigration laws must reflect our values. The enduring symbol of our nation is the Statue of Liberty, not a barbed wire fence." O'Malley also called for limiting detention of illegal immigrants, providing legal advice immigrants threatened with deportation and creating an independent agency to advise eligibility for immigration to the United States.
Source: Time magazine 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 14, 2015

Donald Trump: OpEd: businesses & Republicans condemn anti-Mexico terms

Trump released a statement restating the controversial comments he made almost three weeks ago when he announced he was running for president: "What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc.," Trump's statement said. Trump's comments have resulted in the termination of a number of his business relationships, but it wasn't until the past week that fellow Republican candidates began to forcefully condemn his comments.

Former Gov. George Pataki (R-NY) laid out what he calls are "practical" policy solutions for the issue of securing the southern U.S. border, as well as what to do with the millions of illegal immigrants already living in the country. Trump "has tapped into a chord of people who do not want to see millions of people come here illegally, but that does not justify demonizing an entire group of people," said Pataki. .

Source: CNN.com 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 6, 2015

George Pataki: Practical policy: legal residency after 200 hours of service

Donald Trump released a statement restating the controversial comments he made almost three weeks ago when he announced he was running for president: "What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc.," Trump's statement said. Trump's comments have resulted in the termination of a number of his business relationships, but it wasn't until the past week that fellow Republican candidates began to forcefully condemn his comments.

George Pataki laid out what he calls are "practical" policy solutions for the issue of securing the southern U.S. border, as well as what to do with the millions of illegal immigrants already living in the country. Pataki's immigration proposals include allowing illegal immigrants to obtain the status of legal resident if they come forward publicly, have no criminal history, and commit to 200 hours of community service.

Source: CNN.com 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 6, 2015

Chris Christie: Increase electronic border surveillance and create E-Verify

Q: What is your plan for the border?

Christie: To build a wall across our entire southern border, that's a simple politician's answer. My plan for the border would be multi-fold. First, it would be to use the [right] type of walling or fencing in certain areas. Second would be to use the type of electronic surveillance that we have available to us both through drones and through other electronic surveillance on the border. Third, of course, is to use Border Patrol officers to be able to do it. And fourth, and most important, is that require every employer in America to use E-Verify. Because these folks are coming to work. And if they're not able to be employed if they come here illegally, if every employer uses E-Verify and if they violate the law, there are fines that are so significant that the profit they make off hiring lower-wage workers and discriminating against American workers won't be worth their while. You'll see a real diminishment of anybody trying to come over the southern border

Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 5, 2015

Rick Perry: I secured the border & reduced apprehensions as Texas Gov

Q: Donald Trump took aim at your work on the border yesterday, saying you should have done a better job protecting the border. What do you make of that?

PERRY: Well, I don't think he understands the challenge, obviously. I was the governor of Texas for 14 years. The governor of that state with the 1,200 mile Mexican border. When it became abundantly clear that the president wasn't going to deal with this immigration issue, we acted last summer. We surged our law enforcement and our National Guard there. And as a result we saw a 74 percent decrease of apprehensions in that region of the border where the real challenges were.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 5, 2015

Donald Trump: Make Mexico pay for wall with severe economics

Q: Why do we need a wall?

A: You have people coming through the border that are from all over. And they're bad. I'm talking about people that are from all over that are killers and rapists.

Q: How exactly are you going to get Mexico to pay for building a wall?

A: You force them because we give Mexico a fortune.

Q: So you would cut off business or impose tariffs unless they built the wall?

A: I would do something very severe unless they contributed or gave us the money to build the wall.

Source: CNN SOTU 2015 interview series: 2016 presidential hopefuls Jun 28, 2015

Donald Trump: Mexico & Latin America send us drugs, crime, and rapists

Mexico is beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they're killing us economically. The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.

When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists.

And some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. And it only makes common sense. They're sending us not the right people.

It's coming from more than Mexico. It's coming from all over South and Latin America, and it's coming probably--probably--from the Middle East. But we don't know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don't know what's happening. And it's got to stop and it's got to stop fast.

Source: 2015 announcement speeches of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jun 16, 2015

Donald Trump: Build great wall on southern border; have Mexico pay for it

I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I'll build them very inexpensively, I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall.
Source: 2015 announcement speeches of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jun 16, 2015

Marco Rubio: Comprehensive immigration reform is politically infeasible

Q: Back in 2013, you were one of the authors of the comprehensive immigration plan, which included a tough border enforcement, crack down on employers, but also a path to citizenship. Here's what you said back then in about the 11 million people in this country illegally. But after it passed the Senate and ran into trouble in the House, you bailed on comprehensive immigration reform. How come?

RUBIO: It's not that we bailed. It's that we don't have the votes to pass it. In fact, we have less votes for comprehensive immigration reform today than we did two years again when that passed, because of the last election, because of unilateral actions the president took through executive order, because of a border crisis, because of minors. So I still believe we need to do immigration reform. I still talk about that on the campaign trail. I outlined it in my book, "American Dreams." The problem is, we can't do it in one big piece of legislation. The votes aren't there.

Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls May 17, 2015

Rand Paul: Legal status for 11 million illegals after we secure border

Q: You have said that the 11 million immigrants in this country already here should have some legal status and pay taxes. You want to find some sort of legal status for them?

PAUL: What I want to do first is secure the border. If we secure the border and we can say who is coming, who is going, and only people come, come legally, the 11 million that are here, I think there could be a work status for them. And I think what I have tried to say is, what we want is more legal immigration, so we have less illegal immigration. But I am open to immigration reform. I voted against the bill that came forward, though, primarily because it limited the number of legal work visas.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 coverage:2016 presidential hopefuls Apr 12, 2015

Scott Walker: 2013: Comprehensive reform; 2015: no, that's amnesty

Q: Back when you were the Milwaukee County executive, you actually supported the Kennedy-McCain comprehensive immigration plan. As part of a comprehensive plan--tough enforcement, E-Verify, the 11 million people already here paid penalty--should they get citizenship?

WALKER: No, I'm not talking about amnesty.

Q: But you said you supported it.

WALKER: And my view has changed. I'm flat out saying it. Candidates can say that. Sometimes they don't.

Q: So, you've changed from 2013?

WALKER: Absolutely. I look at the problems we've experienced for the last few years. I've talked to governors on the border and others out there. I've talked to people all across America. And the concerns I have is that we need to secure the border. We ultimately need to put in place a system that works. A legal immigration system that works. And part of doing this is put the onus on employers, getting them E-Verify and tools to do that. But I don't think you do it through amnesty.

Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Mar 1, 2015

Scott Walker: No amnesty, but no mass deportation either

Q: We know you want to fix the border and fix the immigration system, but what would you do about the 11 million undocumented who are still here?

WALKER: I think for sure, we need to secure the border. I think we need to enforce the legal system. I'm not for amnesty, I'm not an advocate of the plans that have been pushed here in Washington. We've got to have a healthy balance. We're a country both of immigrants and of laws. We can't ignore the laws in this country, can't ignore the people who come in, whether it's from Mexico or Central America.

Q: But is deporting them possible?

WALKER: That's not what I'm advocating. I am saying in the end, we need to enforce the laws in the United States, and we need to find a way for people to have a legitimate legal immigration system in this country, and that does not mean amnesty.

Source: ABC This Week 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Feb 1, 2015

Mike Huckabee: Let illegal immigrant kids in college despite parents' crime

Q: As a governor, you supported a bill that would have allowed undocumented immigrants to receive in-state tuition benefits. And you've defended that position a number of times. In 2010 you said, "Is an undocumented immigrant better off going to college and becoming a neurosurgeon or a banker or whatever he might be come and becoming a taxpayer, and in the process, to apply for and achieve citizenship? Or should we make him pick tomatoes?" Do you still feel the same way?

HUCKABEE: Absolutely. Look, we force people to go to school in our states. So as a governor, we had a kid in one of the largest high schools in the state who was the valedictorian. He came here when he was 5 years old. He had gone through the entire public school system. And then the big question was: Should he qualify, having been an Arkansas student, for the same scholarships that anyone else did? And I said yes, he should. Because you don't punish a child for something his parents did.

Source: Meet the Press 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jan 25, 2015

Rick Santorum: Focus on skilled immigrants; now most are unskilled

Q: Is immigration the engine of economic vitality?

SANTORUM: Immigration can be, if immigration is done the right way. Immigration policy in America has to put America and American workers first. The focus of immigration policies [should be] on where we need people with certain skills to come to this country to help gin up and encourage our economy. But, unfortunately, the current legal immigration system is not that. We bring a little over a million people a year into this country on average over the past 20 years. And the overwhelming majority are folks who are lower-skilled or unskilled. And as a result of that, they are filling up a labor pool where there's not a booming growth of unskilled labor jobs in this country. And we're bringing people in who will compete against a lot of American workers. In fact, since 2000, the number of native-born Americans working in the workplace has gone down. There are fewer Americans working today who were born in America than there were 15 years ago.

Source: CNN SOTU 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jan 25, 2015

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2020 Presidential contenders on Immigration:
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Sen.Michael Bennet (D-CO)
V.P.Joe Biden (D-DE)
Mayor Mike Bloomberg (I-NYC)
Gov.Steve Bullock (D-MT)
Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D-IN)
Sen.Cory Booker (D-NJ)
Secy.Julian Castro (D-TX)
Gov.Lincoln Chafee (L-RI)
Rep.John Delaney (D-MD)
Rep.Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)
Sen.Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Gov.Deval Patrick (D-MA)
Sen.Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
CEO Tom Steyer (D-CA)
Sen.Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
Marianne Williamson (D-CA)
CEO Andrew Yang (D-NY)

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Rep.Justin Amash (L-MI)
CEO Don Blankenship (C-WV)
Gov.Lincoln Chafee (L-RI)
Howie Hawkins (G-NY)
Gov.Gary Johnson(L-NM)
Howard Schultz(I-WA)
Gov.Jesse Ventura (I-MN)
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Gov.Larry Hogan (R-MD)
Gov.John Kasich(R-OH)
V.P.Mike Pence(R-IN)
Gov.Mark Sanford (R-SC)
Pres.Donald Trump(R-NY)
Rep.Joe Walsh (R-IL)
Gov.Bill Weld(R-MA & L-NY)

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Sen.Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
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Sen.Kamala Harris (D-CA)
Gov.John Hickenlooper (D-CO)
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Mayor Wayne Messam (D-FL)
Rep.Seth Moulton (D-MA)
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