Sunday Political Talk Show interviews during 2013-2015: on Free Trade


Donald Trump: FactCheck: Yes, has opposed trade deals since Reagan

When accused of opposing Reagan's economic policy in 1987, Trump asserted that "I did disagree with Ronald Reagan very strongly on trade." Is it true that Trump opposed US trade deals in the past?

Yes, for as far back as we have records: in his 2015 book, in his 2011 book, and in his 2000 book. Some sample excerpts:

Source: OnTheIssues Fact-Checking on 2016 presidential hopefuls Oct 9, 2016

John Kasich: Supports Trans-Pacific Partnership but not trade ideology

Ohio Gov. John Kasich says he feels it's his "responsibility and duty as a leader"--no matter the political cost--to help President Barack Obama shepherd the Trans-Pacific Partnership through Congress. "I have never been an ideological supporter of free trade. The ideologues use to come to me and be frustrated with me," he said. "But when you look at these agreements in a real sense--this one is much different than even NAFTA," Kasich added. "This is China. This is Russia. These are fledgling countries in Asia and we want to pivot to Asia? We have to do this."

He said he doesn't mind the political backlash he could face. "I welcome the fact that people will criticize me for putting my country ahead of my party," Kasich said. Kasich and Obama could be facing an uphill battle: Both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton oppose the 12-nation Pacific Rim deal, which Obama has pitched as a way to counterbalance China's rise in the region.

Source: CNN's E.Bradner & E.Scott on 2016 presidential hopefuls Sep 16, 2016

John Kasich: TPP takes advantage of economic opportunities in Pacific Rim

Both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton oppose the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership, which Obama has pitched as a way to counterbalance China's rise in the region. "This is an opportunity for the Congress to carry out its responsibility," Kasich said. "You gotta get this done."

Kasich waded into the presidential debate a bit, but mainly focused his efforts on rallying Republicans away from Trump's protectionist stance and toward the party's pro-trade orthodoxy. "I think I need to spend my time making the case that we don't want to hurt US national security issue, we don't want to turn our back over there, and frankly, we don't want to put ourselves in a position where we're not taking advantage of economic opportunities," he said.

Kasich also defended the prospect of Obama pushing the TPP toward passage in a "lame duck" session of Congress, after the November 8 election but before a new president and Congress are sworn in.

Source: CNN's E.Bradner & E.Scott on 2016 presidential hopefuls Sep 16, 2016

Gary Johnson: I'm a real skeptic on trade agreements, but I would sign TPP

Q: What's your view on the TPP? Here's what Donald Trump said:

TRUMP: Ask Hillary if she is willing to withdraw from the TPP her first day in office and unconditionally rule out its passage in any form.

JOHNSON: I am a real skeptic when it comes to these trade agreements that, in fact, these trade agreements can be laden with crony capitalism. But based on people that have been advising me that I hold in very high esteem, I am being told that the Trans-Pacific Partnership would, in fact, advance free trade, and so I would support that document. The devil is in the details, though, and for the most part legislation that passes really promotes crony capitalism, promotes those that have money as opposed to a level playing field for everybody. So I am a skeptic, but based on what I know, I would sign TPP.

Source: CNN 2016 State of the Union Q&A with presidential hopefuls Jul 3, 2016

Donald Trump: Identify every violation of trade agreements, and prosecute

A Trump Administration will change our failed trade policy--quickly. Here are 7 steps I would pursue right away to bring back our jobs.
  1. Withdraw the US from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which has not yet been ratified.
  2. Appoint the toughest and smartest trade negotiators to fight on behalf of American workers.
  3. Identify every violation of trade agreements a foreign country is currently using to harm our workers. I will then use every tool under American and international law to end these abuses.
  4. Tell our NAFTA partners that I intend to immediately renegotiate the terms of that agreement to get a better deal for our workers, or submit notice under Article 2205 that America intends to withdraw from the deal.
  5. Label China a currency manipulator.
  6. Bring trade cases against China, both in this country and at the WTO, for China's unfair subsidy behavior.
  7. IUse every lawful presidential power to remedy trade disputes, including the application of tariffs.
Source: RealClearPolitics.com on 2016 presidential hopefuls Jun 28, 2016

Darrell Castle: Trans Pacific Partnership is not about free trade

Q: Do you know about the Trans Pacific Partnership?

A: Yes I do. I'm very much opposed to it. I'm not necessarily opposed to free trade. I don't think the TPP is about free trade. I really don't see any need to turn the trade sovereignty, the authority of the United States over to foreign corporations. I don't like the idea of giving international corporations, never mind foreign governments, them too, but foreign corporations, the right to sue the United States and demand that it change its trade policy. I want the United States to be a free and independent country. If we want to negotiate a deal with Mexico for example that says: you let us ship our goods to Mexico without import duties and we'll do the same for you, I have no problem with that. But that's not what the TPP is about so I'm dead set against it.

Source: Huffington Post on 2016 Presidential hopefuls May 25, 2016

Darrell Castle: Repeal NAFTA

Q: You mentioned the Investor State Dispute Settlement process as part of TPP; that is also part of NAFTA--would you repeal NAFTA?

A: I do realize that, yes. Yes I would repeal NAFTA.

Source: Huffington Post on 2016 Presidential hopefuls May 25, 2016

Chris Christie: Supports free trade, but distrusts Obama's TPP agreement

Q: You've come out against the president's trade agreement that would eliminate 18,000 tariffs on US exports. Why isn't that a good thing?

CHRISTIE: I don't trust this president to negotiate any deal. And that's what my answer was, to say I don't trust this president negotiating a deal. I wouldn't let this president buy me a car, that's how bad a negotiator he is. So, I will not support TPP as negotiated by this president, because I'm convinced it will be just as bad as the Iranian nuclear deal.

Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 Coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Nov 8, 2015

Donald Trump: Restrict free trade to keep jobs in US

Q: You would end NAFTA, kill the Pacific Trade Agreement, impose tariffs on some products like 35% on Ford cars made in Mexico.

TRUMP: I am all for free trade, but it's got to be fair. When Ford moves their massive plants to Mexico, we get nothing. I want them to stay in Michigan.

Q: But the American Enterprise Institute says, your Trump Collection clothing line, some of it is made in Mexico and China.

TRUMP: That's true. I want it to be made here.

Q: The point is you're doing just what Ford is--you're taking advantage of a global trading market.

TRUMP: I never dispute that. I just ordered 4,000 television sets from South Korea. I don't want to order them from South Korea. I don't think anybody makes television sets in the United States anymore. I talk about it all the time. We don't make anything anymore. Now you look at Boeing. Boeing's going over to China. They're going to build a massive plant because China's demanding it in order to order airplanes from Boeing.

Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 Coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Oct 18, 2015

James Webb: Skeptical about Trans-Pacific Partnership

Martin O'Malley has been a vocal opponent of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). He will only back agreements that are negotiated openly, that prohibit currency manipulation, that set and enforce stronger financial, labor and environmental regulations.

Webb has also been skeptical about the TPP, as he usually (but not invariably) is about trade deals. He has not offered an O'Malley-style list of the elements a pact would require to get his support.

Source: Reason magazine on 2016 presidential hopefuls Oct 13, 2015

Martin O`Malley: Will only back agreements negotiated openly, unlike TPP

O'Malley has been a vocal opponent of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). He will only back agreements that are negotiated openly, that prohibit currency manipulation and "hold cheaters accountable," that set and enforce stronger labor and environmental regulations, that do not weaken financial regulations, that do not strengthen patent laws in ways that make medicines unaffordable, that require strong rules of origin, and that "support investment in the U.S. economy."
Source: Reason magazine on 2016 presidential hopefuls Oct 13, 2015

John Kasich: Open trade is good for us, but don't be saps

Kasich said he believes in free trade, but not at all costs. Kasich admits to being a supporter of the North American Free Trade Agreement even though it cost jobs in his state. "The interesting thing is, there are now some car companies talking about moving things to Mexico and they're citing NAFTA, and I'm going to dig into that, Kasich said. But, he added, "By and large, open trade is good for us."

Still, he added, "I think that we have in some ways been saps. I have a friend that ran a steel company. I said, 'do you think, Koreans, for example, are dumping material and destroying our jobs?' He said, 'yes, but it takes two years to get a remedy.' That is baloney."

While he is for free trade, Kasich said, "I am for clamping down when the United States worker gets shafted because somebody is cheating on a trade agreement."

Source: Newsmax.com on 2016 Presidential hopefuls Jul 26, 2015

John Kasich: Trade, but not at all costs: clamp down on cheaters

John Kasich said he believes in free trade, but not at all costs. Kasich admits to being a supporter of the North American Free Trade Agreement even though it cost jobs in his state. "The interesting thing is, there are now some car companies talking about moving things to Mexico and they're citing NAFTA, and I'm going to dig into that," Kasich said. But, he added, "By and large, open trade is good for us."

Still, he added, "I think that we have in some ways been saps. I have a friend that ran a steel company. I said, `do you think Koreans are dumping material and destroying our jobs?' He said, `Yes; why don't we do something about it? It takes two years to get a remedy.' That is baloney."

While he is for free trade, Kasich said, "I am for clamping down when the US worker gets shafted because somebody is cheating on a trade agreement." Kasich said the country's problems can't be fixed with "hot rhetoric" or just one party, & his problem-solving abilities are what make him the best choice.

Source: Newsmax.com's Greg Richter on 2016 presidential hopefuls Jul 25, 2015

Donald Trump: Disastrous deals because we don't have smart negotiators

Q: So, you would tear up NAFTA?

A: I think NAFTA has been a disaster. I think our current deals are a disaster. I'm a free trader. The problem with free trade is, you need smart people representing you. We have the greatest negotiators in the world, but we don't use them. We use political hacks and diplomats. We use the wrong people. Mexico is smart; they have out-negotiated us to a fare-thee-well. They're going to be the capital of automobiles pretty soon, the way they're going.

Source: CNN SOTU 2015 interview series: 2016 presidential hopefuls Jun 28, 2015

Donald Trump: China and Japan are beating us; I can beat China

Our country is in serious trouble. We don't have victories anymore. We used to have victories, but we don't have them. When was the last time anybody saw us beating, let's say, China in a trade deal? They kill us. I beat China all the time. All the time.

When did we beat Japan at anything? They send their cars over by the millions, and what do we do? When was the last time you saw a Chevrolet in Tokyo? It doesn't exist, folks. They beat us all the time.

When do we beat Mexico at the border? They're laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they're killing us economically. The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.

Source: 2015 announcement speeches of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jun 16, 2015

Donald Trump: 35% import tax on Mexican border

Ford announces a few weeks ago that Ford is going to build a $2.5 billion car and truck and parts manufacturing plant in Mexico. I would call up the head of Ford, if I was president, I'd say, "Congratulations. I understand that you're building a nice $2.5 billion car factory in Mexico and that you're going to take your cars and sell them to the US zero tax, just flow them across the border."

And you say to yourself, "How does that help us? Where is that good"? It's not. So I would say, "Let me give you the bad news. Every car and every part manufactured in this plant that comes across the border, we're going to charge you a 35% tax, and that tax is going to be paid simultaneously with the transaction.

Now, if it's not me in the position, here's what's going to happen: They're going to get a call from the donors or from the lobbyist for Ford and say, "I take care of you, and you can't do that to Ford."

I'm using my own money. I'm not using the lobbyists. I'm not using donors. I don't care.

Source: 2015 announcement speeches of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jun 16, 2015

Donald Trump: Stupid people negotiate our trade bills, & trade won't work

I'm totally against the trade bill for a number of reasons. I'm a free trader. But the problem with free trade is you need really talented people to negotiate for you. If you don't have people that know business, not just a political hack that got the job because he made a contribution to a campaign, free trade is terrible.

Free trade can be wonderful if you have smart people, but we have people that are stupid. We have people that are controlled by special interests. And it's just not going to work

Source: 2015 announcement speeches of 2016 presidential hopefuls Jun 16, 2015

Bernie Sanders: Base trade policy on working families, not multinationals

Q: The president says that expanding trade helps service industries & opens new markets. You talk about workers that would lose their job from trade. They say this will open up markets that will increase jobs.

SANDERS: I have been hearing that argument for the last 25 years. I heard it about NAFTA. I heard it about CAFTA. I heard it about permanent normal trade relations with China. Here is the fact. Since 2001, we have lost almost 60,000 factories and millions of good-paying jobs. I'm not saying trade is the only reason, but it is a significant reason why Americans are working longer hours for low wages and why we are seeing our jobs go to China and other low-wage countries. And, finally, what you're seeing in Congress are Democrats and some Republicans beginning to stand up and say, maybe we should have a trade policy which represents the working families of this country, that rebuilds our manufacturing base, not than just representing the CEOs of large multinational corporations.

Source: CBS Face the Nation 2015 coverage:2016 presidential hopefuls Jun 14, 2015

Lindsey Graham: Make currency manipulation a key issue in trade negotiations

The Senate rejected an amendment sponsored by Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH) to the Trade Act (HR 1314). The amendment would have defined currency manipulation as a key issue for US trade negotiators to take into account during trade talks with other countries. A supporter, Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) said Japan and other Asian countries have used currency manipulation as a primary tactic to promote exports and discourage imports, creating an unfair trade dynamic for the US that hurts domestic manufacturers.

An amendment opponent, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) called it "far too risky" because it would derail prospects for signing the Trans-Pacific Partnership with Asian countries, subject US monetary policies to the threat of sanctions from overseas, and discourage currency exchange rate transparency by countries that export goods to the U.S. The vote, on May 22, was 48 yeas to 51 nays.

NAYS: Sen. Tim Scott R-SC

YEAS: Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC

Source: Greenville News 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls May 30, 2015

Rick Perry: Ex-Im Bank is corrupt; closing it helps our competitiveness

HH: You used to be a big Ex-Im supporter. I'm a big Ex-Im supporter, and you switched on this. I think we need this bank.

RP: Well, I think we need to be competitive. And I think we need to have a conversation about how we are more competitive by number one, changing our tax policy and changing our regulatory policy so that our companies can be more competitive. But here's what changed me. And I don't think anybody can stand up and defend the Ex-Im Bank after the corruption and fraud became.....

HH: But reform it. Don't end it, reform it.

RP: Well, and you know what? My deal is that sometimes, you've got to threaten people pretty deeply to get their attention, and doing away with them is a very powerful threat.

Source: Hugh Hewitt 2015 interview of 2016 presidential hopefuls May 20, 2015

Hillary Clinton: TPP must produce jobs, raise wages, & protect security

An MSNBC reporter asked Clinton on April 21 whether she had concerns about the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade agreement the Obama administration is in the process of negotiating, According to CBS, Clinton responded, "Any trade deal has to produce jobs and raise wages and increase prosperity and protect our security. We have to do our part in making sure we have the capabilities and the skills to be competitive. It's got to be really a partnership between our business, our government, our workforce, the intellectual property that comes out of our universities, and we have to get back to a much more focused effort in my opinion to try to produce those capacities here at home so that we can be competitive in a global economy."
Source: National Journal 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Apr 27, 2015

Martin O`Malley: Opposing bad trade deals like TPP is just common sense

Fighting economic inequality, a touchstone populist issue, O'Malley is, like Obama, pushing for a stronger middle class through the "economics of inclusion" and greater upward mobility. He wants a national minimum wage, protections for trade unions, equal pay for women, affordable education and increases in social welfare benefits.

O'Malley, an opponent of the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal that Obama wants to sign with 11 Asian countries, has needled Clinton on her pivoting position on free trade deals.

"Hard choice?" he told supporters in an email, riffing on the title of Clint

Source: Irish Times 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Apr 27, 2015

Bernie Sanders: Wrong, wrong, wrong that trade deals create jobs here

Q: As secretary of state, Clinton said she favored a trade deal with our 11 Pacific partners & fast track authority to make that happen. Is that an issue for you?

SANDERS: In the House and Senate, I voted against all of these terrible trade agreements, NAFTA, CAFTA, permanent normal trades relations with China. Republicans and Democrats, they say, "oh, we'll create all these jobs by having a trade agreement with China." Well, the answer is, they were wrong, wrong, wrong. Over the years, we have lost millions of decent paying jobs. These trade agreements have forced wages down in America so the average worker in America today is working longer hours for lower wages.

Q: So, is that a litmus test for you, to see whether or not Clinton is going to come out against the TPP?

SANDERS: I hope very much the secretary comes out against it. I think we do not need to send more jobs to low wage countries. I think corporate America has to start investing in this country and create decent paying jobs here.

Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Apr 19, 2015

Chris Christie: Trade mission to Mexico doubles as foreign policy tour

As he weighs a run for the presidency at a moment of spiraling global mayhem, Christie's trip to Mexico this week is taking on a sudden urgency: intended as a trade mission, it will double as a chance to demonstrate a level of acumen and adroitness on foreign policy that has so far eluded him.

The pillars of the Christie worldview, as gleaned from about a dozen speeches and public appearances, tend to rise from a simple observation: A high-functioning America at home, liberated from partisan dysfunction, exerts greater influence abroad. "What we say and what we do here at home affects how others see us and in turn affects what it is they say and do," Christie said in 2011.

Source: N.Y. Times 2014 coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls Sep 2, 2014

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2020 Presidential contenders on Free Trade:
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Sen.Michael Bennet (D-CO)
V.P.Joe Biden (D-DE)
Mayor Mike Bloomberg (I-NYC)
Gov.Steve Bullock (D-MT)
Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D-IN)
Sen.Cory Booker (D-NJ)
Secy.Julian Castro (D-TX)
Gov.Lincoln Chafee (L-RI)
Rep.John Delaney (D-MD)
Rep.Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)
Sen.Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Gov.Deval Patrick (D-MA)
Sen.Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
CEO Tom Steyer (D-CA)
Sen.Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
Marianne Williamson (D-CA)
CEO Andrew Yang (D-NY)

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Rep.Justin Amash (L-MI)
CEO Don Blankenship (C-WV)
Gov.Lincoln Chafee (L-RI)
Howie Hawkins (G-NY)
Gov.Gary Johnson(L-NM)
Howard Schultz(I-WA)
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V.P.Mike Pence(R-IN)
Gov.Mark Sanford (R-SC)
Pres.Donald Trump(R-NY)
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Gov.Bill Weld(R-MA & L-NY)

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Sen.Kamala Harris (D-CA)
Gov.John Hickenlooper (D-CO)
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