2016 Vice-Presidential Debate: on Social Security


Donald Trump: FactCheck: Yes, "privatization would be good for all of us"

Democratic vice-presidential nominee Tim Kaine said in the V.P.debate, "Donald Trump wrote a book & said Social Security is a Ponzi scheme and privatization would be good for all of us." Is that true? Yes, it's true; we found the relevant book passage that Kaine referred to:

"The solution to the Great Social Security crisis couldn't be more obvious: Allow every American to dedicate some portion of their payroll taxes to a personal Social Security account that they could own and invest in stocks and bonds. Federal guidelines would make sure that your money is diversified, that it is invested in sound mutual funds or bond funds, and not in emu ranches....Privatization would be good for all of us. Directing Social Security funds into personal accounts invested in real assets would swell national savings, pumping hundreds of billions of dollars into jobs and the economy." (Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.198-199 & 203 , July 2000)

Source: 2016 Vice-Presidential Debate at Longwood University Oct 4, 2016

Mike Pence: We're going to meet our obligations to our seniors

KAINE: Donald Trump wrote a book and said Social Security is a Ponzi scheme and privatization would be good for all of us.

PENCE: Well, there they go again.

KAINE: Go read the book And when Congressman Pence was in Congress, he was the chief cheerleader for the privatization of Social Security. Even after President Bush stopped pushing for it, Congressman Pence kept pushing for it. We're going to stand up against efforts to privatize Social Security. And we'll look for ways to keep it solvent going forward, focusing primarily on the payroll tax cap.

PENCE: All Donald Trump and I have said about Social Security is we're going to meet our obligations to our seniors. That's it.

KAINE: Go read the book.

Source: 2016 Vice-Presidential Debate at Longwood University Oct 4, 2016

Mike Pence: We will keep promises to seniors

All Donald Trump and I have said about Social Security is we're going to meet our obligations to our seniors. That's it. We've said we're going to meet the obligations of Medicare. That's what this campaign is really about. And I get [it, that] this is the old scare tactic that they roll out. We're going to reform government programs so we can meet the obligations of Social Security and Medicare.
Source: 2016 Vice-Presidential Debate at Longwood University Oct 4, 2016

Tim Kaine: Never, ever risk Social Security with privatization

Q: In 18 years, when the Social Security Trust Funds run out of money, you'll be 76--your benefits could be cut by as much as $7,500 per year. What would your administration do to prevent this cut?

KAINE: First, we're going to protect Social Security, which is one of the greatest programs that the American government has ever done. It happened at a time when you would work your whole life, raising your kids, working, and then you would retire into poverty. And Social Security has enabled people to retire with dignity and overwhelmingly not be in poverty. We have to keep it solvent. And we will keep it solvent. And we'll look for strategies like adjusting the payroll tax cap upward in order to do that. Here's what Hillary and I will not do: We will never, ever engage in a risky scheme to privatize Social Security. Donald Trump wrote a book and said Social Security is a Ponzi scheme and privatization would be good for all of us.

PENCE: Well, , there they go again.

KAINE: Go read the book!

Source: 2016 Vice-Presidential Debate at Longwood University Oct 4, 2016

  • The above quotations are from Vice-Presidential Debate, Oct. 4, 2016, moderated by Elaine Quijano of CBS News.
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2016 Presidential contenders on Social Security:
  Republicans:
Gov.Jeb Bush(FL)
Dr.Ben Carson(MD)
Gov.Chris Christie(NJ)
Sen.Ted Cruz(TX)
Carly Fiorina(CA)
Gov.Jim Gilmore(VA)
Sen.Lindsey Graham(SC)
Gov.Mike Huckabee(AR)
Gov.Bobby Jindal(LA)
Gov.John Kasich(OH)
Gov.Sarah Palin(AK)
Gov.George Pataki(NY)
Sen.Rand Paul(KY)
Gov.Rick Perry(TX)
Sen.Rob Portman(OH)
Sen.Marco Rubio(FL)
Sen.Rick Santorum(PA)
Donald Trump(NY)
Gov.Scott Walker(WI)
Democrats:
Gov.Lincoln Chafee(RI)
Secy.Hillary Clinton(NY)
V.P.Joe Biden(DE)
Gov.Martin O`Malley(MD)
Sen.Bernie Sanders(VT)
Sen.Elizabeth Warren(MA)
Sen.Jim Webb(VA)

2016 Third Party Candidates:
Gov.Gary Johnson(L-NM)
Roseanne Barr(PF-HI)
Robert Steele(L-NY)
Dr.Jill Stein(G,MA)
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