Presidential Debate at CNN headquarters, Atlanta GA: on Homeland Security


Donald Trump: Did not attend veteran cemetery in France while president

BIDEN: I was recently in France, and I went to the World War I cemetery [Trump] refused to go to. He [said], "I don't want to go in there because they're a bunch of losers and suckers."

TRUMP: First of all, that was a made-up quote, "suckers and losers." They made it up. It was in a third-rate magazine that's failing, like many of these magazines [referring to The Atlantic magazine]. He made that up. He put it in commercials. We've notified 'em. We had 19 people that said I didn't say it. Who would say--at a cemetery, talking about our veterans--to think that I would, in front of generals and others, say "suckers and losers"--we have 19 people that said it was never said by me. It was made up by him.

BIDEN: You had a 4-star general stand at your side, who was on your staff, who said you said it, period [referring to John Kelly].

TRUMP: Biden was so bad with Afghanistan--he should have fired those generals like I fired the one that you mentioned [General John Kelly].

Source: First Trump-Biden debate, at CNN in Atlanta Jun 27, 2024

Donald Trump: FactCheck: Media did report Trump saying military are losers

Biden claimed that Trump said, "I don't want to go in [to a military cemetery in France] because they're a bunch of losers and suckers." Trump responded, "That was a made-up quote, 'suckers and losers'." Who's right? A FactCheck from The Hill (a conservative online magazine) concludes that The Atlantic magazine did publish that phrase in 2020, and General John Kelly confirmed it. Biden correctly related those facts, but Trump's claim could still be correct if The Atlantic or John Kelly made it up:

THE HILL (June 10, 2024): Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers". The Atlantic reported in 2020 that Trump asked staffers, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." The magazine reported Trump later referred to war dead as "suckers" for getting killed. While Trump has denied making the remarks, his former chief of staff, John Kelly, later corroborated the magazine's account.

Source: First Trump-Biden debate, at CNN in Atlanta Jun 27, 2024

Joe Biden: Attended 80th anniversary of D-Day in France

BIDEN: I was recently in France for [the 80th anniversary of] D-Day, and I went to the World War I cemetery [Trump] refused to go to. He was standing with his four-star general, and he told him, "I don't want to go in there because they're a bunch of losers and suckers." My son [Beau Biden, who served as a JAG in Iraq] was not a loser. He was not a sucker. You're the sucker. You're the loser.

TRUMP: That was a made-up quote, "suckers and losers." They made it up. It was in a third-rate magazine that's failing [referring to The Atlantic magazine]. He made that up. He put it in commercials.

BIDEN: You had a four-star general stand at your side, who was on your staff, who said you said it, period [referring to Trump chief of staff John Kelly]. He acknowledged after it that he fired that general. That general got fired because he's the one that acknowledged that that's what he said. He was the one standing with Trump when he said it, number one.[See FactCheck: Yes, The Atlantic reported this].

Source: First Trump-Biden debate, at CNN in Atlanta Jun 27, 2024

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