Fifth GOP presidential primary debate: on Social Security


Nikki Haley: Adjust retirement age to 70 for younger workers in their 20s

Q: You want to raise the retirement age for younger Americans, but you have not said what that age should be. Should voters in their 20s plan on working until they're 70?

HALEY: DeSantis voted to raise the retirement age to 73. When I said the retirement age was too low--and you can go to DeSantisLies.com--I said it's too low, if we're going to look at those in their 20s. We have to go and start looking at what we can do to get out of this. We want to make sure that everybody who was promised gets it.

Q: Just a clarification: should voters in their 20s plan on having to work until they're 70?

HALEY: They should plan on their retirement age being increased, yes. We're going to change it to reflect more of what life expectancy should be.

DeSantisLies.com: "LIE: DeSantis falsely claims Haley wants to raise the retirement age for retirees.

TRUTH: Haley has ONLY called for adjusting the retirement age for younger workers in their twenties.

Source: CNN 2024 pre-Iowa caucus one-on-one debate Jan 10, 2024

Ron DeSantis: A promise made will be a promise kept

Q: You have said that you're not going to "mess with Social Security." Does that mean you have committed to never raising the retirement age and never cutting benefits?

DESANTIS: So, all seniors out there, a promise has been made to you. You've paid into this. Every single paycheck that you've had your entire life they've taken money out of, and that promise needs to be fulfilled. So, that will happen when I'm president. Promise made, promise kept. On the retirement age, there used to be people would say, "well, life expectancy is going up. Shouldn't it mirror that?" Well, the problem now in the last five years is life expectancy is going down. So, I don't see how you can raise the retirement age when our life expectancy is collapsing in this country. That's a huge problem in and of itself. I'll work with both sides of the aisle. We'll work on something for the long-term strengthening, but I am not going to mess with seniors' benefits.

Source: CNN 2024 pre-Iowa caucus one-on-one debate Jan 10, 2024

Ron DeSantis: Can't raise retirement age when life expectancy declining

Q: Removing current seniors from the equation, are you committing to never raising the retirement age?

DESANTIS: I would never raise the retirement age in the face of a declining life expectancy. That would be really bad. That hurts blue collar folks. You get taxed your entire life; life expectancy is down. You may not even be recouping very many benefits.

HALEY: Three years in a row, he voted to raise life expectancy to 70 years old, three years in a row. Go to DeSantisLies.com and you'll see it. So, now suddenly he's going to tell you because he's running for president and he's not going to do it, you can't trust him.

  • DeSantisLies.com: "DeSantis wanted to raise the retirement age to 70 when he was in Congress, voting to do so in 2013, 2014, and 2015. In 2012, Ron DeSantis told a local Florida newspaper that Social Security was unsustainable and was never intended for people to be retiring at '65 or 67' if they are going to live into their eighties."
    Source: CNN 2024 pre-Iowa caucus one-on-one debate Jan 10, 2024

    Ron DeSantis: Social Security is not an entitlement; we all pay in

    DESANTIS: Governor Haley has said Social Security is an entitlement, but it's not an entitlement. You're paying into it. It's not a welfare program. You're being taxed for this your whole life. And so to expect to have benefits on the backend, I don't think that that's too much.

    The other thing I'd point out is Social Security for decades ran massive surpluses. What happened to those surpluses? The Congress spent the surpluses.

    Source: CNN 2024 pre-Iowa caucus one-on-one debate Jan 10, 2024

    • The above quotations are from Debates and Town Halls prior to the Iowa caucus on Jan. 15, 2024.
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    2016 Presidential contenders on Social Security:
      Republicans:
    Gov.Jeb Bush(FL)
    Dr.Ben Carson(MD)
    Gov.Chris Christie(NJ)
    Sen.Ted Cruz(TX)
    Carly Fiorina(CA)
    Gov.Jim Gilmore(VA)
    Sen.Lindsey Graham(SC)
    Gov.Mike Huckabee(AR)
    Gov.Bobby Jindal(LA)
    Gov.John Kasich(OH)
    Gov.Sarah Palin(AK)
    Gov.George Pataki(NY)
    Sen.Rand Paul(KY)
    Gov.Rick Perry(TX)
    Sen.Rob Portman(OH)
    Sen.Marco Rubio(FL)
    Sen.Rick Santorum(PA)
    Donald Trump(NY)
    Gov.Scott Walker(WI)
    Democrats:
    Gov.Lincoln Chafee(RI)
    Secy.Hillary Clinton(NY)
    V.P.Joe Biden(DE)
    Gov.Martin O`Malley(MD)
    Sen.Bernie Sanders(VT)
    Sen.Elizabeth Warren(MA)
    Sen.Jim Webb(VA)

    2016 Third Party Candidates:
    Gov.Gary Johnson(L-NM)
    Roseanne Barr(PF-HI)
    Robert Steele(L-NY)
    Dr.Jill Stein(G,MA)
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