Mark Kennedy in 2006 Minnesota Senate Debate


On Environment: League of Conservation Voters considers manure a toxic waste

[At the Farmfest debate in August 2006], Congressman Kennedy and I got questions about renewable fuels, rural development, dairy and crop programs. But the most memorable part of the debate focused on--of all things--manure.

As the Owatonna People's Press reported: "Kennedy came out swinging first, telling the crowd that Klobuchar is supported by an special interest group--the League of Conservation Voters, which he never named from the stage--that considers manure a toxic waste."

"I don't want to get into the manure here," I shot back, "but I don't think manure is a toxic waste." After the debate, I quipped: "If he wants to go down into the manure, I will go down with him."

The media couldn't help but take it from there. "Politicians spread manure at Farmfest," the headline in the Mankato Free Press reported after the debate. "Kennedy's manure spin just doesn't pass the smell test," Willmar's West Central Tribune chimed in. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Source: 2006 MN Senate Debate in The Senator Next Door, p.210 Aug 24, 2015

On Tax Reform: 2006: No changes in tax rates, not even for very wealthy

The State Fair debate took place on September 1st. At the debate, Congressman Kennedy immediately attacked me as "another lawyer-lobbyist" and asked voters to send him to the Senate because of his record as a certified public accountant.

I was ready for that line. During the campaign, I had laid out a plan to reduce the debt that included both spending cuts and a proposal to roll back the Bush tax cuts for the top 1 percent of the nation's earners. Kennedy would not agree to any changes in the tax rates, even for the very wealthy.

I hit back. Noting that I had just visited the State Fair's beer garden, where I'd heard one student tell another that the beer they'd been drinking was "all foam and no beer," I turned to Kennedy and said, "That's your economic plan, Congressman. It's all foam and no beer."

That got the crowd going, and the line played almost constantly on radio and TV for the next 24 hours.

Source: 2006 MN Senate Debate in The Senator Next Door, p.211-2 Aug 24, 2015

On War & Peace: 2006: We've made some mistakes in Iraq, but stay the course

[At the Oct. 15, 2006 Senate debate , my Republican opponent Mark Kennedy and I] first discussed North Korea and then spent a lot of time talking about the war in Iraq. Kennedy called the war the "number one issue in this race" and repeated his position that although we had made some mistakes, we should stay the course. I noted that we had already spent $300 billion on the war and that while we should not suddenly pull out, we needed to turn the governing of the country over to the Iraqis and over time withdraw our troops. When I was given a chance to ask Kennedy a question, I asked him if he believed he was wrong to vote for the war in Iraq. He said he wasn't.
Source: 2006 MN Senate Debate in The Senator Next Door, p.213 Aug 24, 2015

On Budget & Economy: Authored the line-item veto, to take out bills’ silly stuff

KENNEDY: We have to keep the approach of keeping spending under control. I’m the author of the line-item veto. I don’t understand why we want to build a bridge to nowhere in Alaska, a rain forest in Iowa.

Q: But you voted for both those proposals.

KENNEDY: I voted for every single amendment to take out these crazy line items.

Q: But in final passage, those proposals were legislation you voted for.

KENNEDY: They were, because I support roads and key programs. But you ought not to hold a whole bill hostage because there’s silly stuff in it. We ought to have a line-item veto for the president to cut that junk out of there, hold Congress accountable, keep spending under control.

Q: But you have a Republican president, a Republican House, a Republican Senate, and you have an $8 trillion debt.

KENNEDY: I would like the president to take a little bit more leadership on spending. We do need to push forward and make sure that we have strong fiscal measures to keep spending under control.

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

On Foreign Policy: Use diplomacy and China to pressure North Korea on nukes

Q: Do we use military action to stop North Korea’s nuclear program?

KENNEDY: We need to continue to ratchet up the diplomatic efforts. We also need to continue to push China. They have far more influence over North Korea.

Q: Pres. Bush said, “We will not tolerate nuclear weapons in North Korea.” Do we hold him to his commitment?

KENNEDY: But he also said that we want to have a peaceful and diplomatic solution. So we have to push every channel we can to achieve it in a peaceful and diplomatic way, not taking anything off the table.

Q: If Bush leaves office with nuclear devices in North Korea, will it have been a failed policy?

KENNEDY: We need to take every step we can to prevent that from happening.

Q: If the North Koreans ignore the sanctions, what do we do?

KLOBUCHAR: We have to keep ratcheting things up. Keeping the military option on the table is key, but sanctions are the first step, Unlike how we handled Iraq or where it was “Go it alone,” we have to work with our allies.

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

On Homeland Security: Patriot Act allowed 5 years without terrorist attack

KENNEDY: Ms. Klobuchar has come out for weakening the Patriot Act that has allowed us to have five years without a terrorist attack on our country. She’s against making sure that we were paying attention when al-Qaeda was talking to somebody in America. And she came out against a bill to make sure that we can get the intelligence we need from those we hold in custody to prevent future attacks.

KLOBUCHAR: I support winning this war on terror by being smart, I supported the Patriot Act.

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

On Principles & Values: Votes for what’s best for MN, but with Bush 92% of the time

Q: Do you believe that George Bush is a great president?

KENNEDY: I believe history is going to make that decision. This is a guy who’s human, like all of us. Has made mistakes, we’ve all made mistakes.

Q: And yet you supported the president 92% of the time [with your votes], according to Congressional Quarterly. Are you running as a George Bush Republican?

KENNEDY: I’m running as Mark Kennedy. My votes are based on what’s best for Minnesota families.

Q: But 92% of the time, you voted for President Bush.

KENNEDY: I don’t where they get those statistics, but they only take one out of 10 votes. But I can tell you there are things I disagree with the president on, whether it be No Child Left Behind that I voted against my first year in Congress, or ANWR. There are things that I agree with him on, that you get prosperity for our kids not by raising taxes but by keeping it low, and that we keep our families safe by being on the offense in the war on terror.

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

On Tax Reform: Tax relief was a reward for those who create jobs

Q: Ms. Klobuchar said that we should roll back the Bush tax cut on those making over $200,000 a year. Should we?

KENNEDY: We have had six million new jobs. The economy was flat on its back after 9/11. We passed tax relief to reward people--to let them keep more of their hard-earned money. Families, small business, those that take risk and create jobs. Six million new jobs have been created. We cannot be raising taxes, putting this economy back on its back, and also not growing jobs.

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

On War & Peace: Wrong on prediction of significant troops home in 2006

Q: You predicted in February 2006, “I fully expect that over the next year there will be a significant number of troops who will be returning home because of success in Iraq.” Flat wrong.

KENNEDY: I said in February that we expected troops [to return home]. We have less troops, not as much [less] as I would like; we’ve run into tougher patches.

Q: Why can’t you say you were wrong?

KENNEDY: I was wrong in the significant number, I was right in terms of the fact that there are less troops

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

On War & Peace: We were over-optimistic, but making progress in Iraq

Q: You said after your first trip to Iraq in 2003:
“On the whole, the trend [in Iraq] is very positive. Our troops face a collection of terrorists and thugs, of whom there are fewer each day.”
That’s just dead wrong.

KENNEDY: Were we potentially a bit optimistic? Possibly. And we’ve seen more challenges than we expected, no question. But if you look at what’s happened, we have trained 300,000 Iraqi troops. We have a unity government.

Q: 10 months ago you said “Progress was clear, we’re making great strides.“ Why shouldn’t voters in Minnesota say, ”Kennedy is wearing rose-colored glasses and saying, ‘Everything’s fine. We’re making progress.’“

KENNEDY: I never said everything’s fine, but we are making progress.

Q: You said, ”It’s very positive“?

KENNEDY: Each year I go back to Iraq, I see a government that is further down the path of addressing serious issues. Their military is more fully developed and taking over more and more of the responsibilities for us.

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

On War & Peace: Stands by his vote for war in Iraq; no rewinding history

Q: Knowing what you know today, if the CIA came to you and said, “Saddam Hussein does not have weapons of mass destruction,” would you still vote to go into Iraq?

KENNEDY: We acted on the information that we knew at the time.

Q: But knowing what you know today, would you still vote?

KENNEDY: You can’t really play TiVo and rewind in the real world, but let me just say this: First of all, I stand by my vote. And second of all, we just got done talking about Korea. We just got done talking about consequences for actions. Seventeen UN resolutions. If we had let one of the top sponsors of terrorists, that was paying thousands of dollars to those families that had suicide bombers, if we had let 17 UN resolutions go by, what chance would we have of North Korea or China paying any attention to the resolution just passed yesterday?

Q: So you’d still go into Iraq?

KENNEDY: I stand by my vote. We can’t rewind. We acted on the information we knew at the time and acted correctly.

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

On War & Peace: Iraq is a central front in the war on terror

KENNEDY: Ms. Klobuchar says Iraq is a distraction. I think that it is one of the central fronts in the war on terror. She has set out a specific timetable for bringing our troops home that would tell the terrorists when they can take over an oil-rich country as a sanctuary for terrorists. And I believe we ought to be bringing our troops home as soon as we can after we’re sure the terrorists can’t win.

KLOBUCHAR: I have never been one to say “Bring them all home tomorrow.” We have to be responsible about how we bring our troops home.

KENNEDY: She’s also come out against a bill funding body armor for our troops that a majority of Democrats join me in supporting. We have no higher priority than to support our troops in time of war, and we have to win this war on terror.

KLOBUCHAR: Of course I support body armor for our troops, I support winning this war on terror by being smart. We need to transition to Iraqi governance.

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

On War & Peace: No specific timetable for withdrawal from Iraq

Q: What about a timetable for withdrawal?

KENNEDY: I reject a specific timetable. At every stage along the way, we ought to say, “Is there adjustments we need to be making?’ We have been making adjustments. Ms. Klobuchar says the solution is diplomatic and political; but you can’t negotiate with people that are ruthless and glory in killing innocent women and children. We need to make sure that terrorists can’t win so that we can bring our troops home as quickly as possible.

Q: No matter how long it takes?

KENNEDY: We need to make sure that the terrorists can’t win. We cannot let Iraq became a sanctuary for terrorists.

Q: And you believe this war can be won militarily?

KENNEDY: There’s no question that we need to also prod the political forces within Iraq, as we have been. But, these are steps that need to be pushed politically, but they can’t be done if we’re saying, “We’re going to pull our troops away.”

KLOBUCHAR: This is just more of the same. We need to change course.

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

On War & Peace: We must win or terrorism will mushroom

KLOBUCHAR: How come you won’t even admit that you were wrong about voting for this war when we are in the situation we’re in, when we’ve spent over $300 billion, when many members of your own party have admitted that this war was not the right direction, that in fact it has fomented terrorism? We now have 16 agencies of President Bush’s administration saying that this has added more terrorism in this world?

KENNEDY: Let’s talk about what the 16 agencies said. They said that we are clearly activating terrorists in Iraq, having taken the challenge to them. But they also said we have to prevail. If we don’t prevail, it will greatly mushroom this threat, let it grow in size, and come to face our future generations. They said that if we, if we lose, that’s what will happen; if we win, we will greatly degrade what’s happening on the other side.

Source: 2006 MN Senate debate, on Meet the Press Oct 15, 2006

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