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Jim Gilmore: Bush's steadfastness in Iraq is leadership in crisis

Q: After we got into Iraq and we realized there was no WMD, the president's people all apologized for the fact that the president had said in his State of the Union address that there was evidence of an Iraqi deal to buy uranium from Africa. Now the president is coming out and saying, "Well, we didn't make a mistake. It wasn't our fault." What's his point?

A: This is no longer just about the president or his popularity or his standing; this is about what is in the best interests of the nation that he is leading. And I think what he's really trying to say is, "Look, we're all in this together. Those who supported us ought to remember that we're all in the same boat and still stick with us." And second, I think he's issuing a message of steadfastness. I think he's trying to let the people of the world know that Americans stand by their principles and stand by their commitments. And I think he's beginning to once again lead the nation at a time of crisis.

Source: MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews on 2006 election Nov 11, 2005

Jim Gilmore: UN supported US before war; let's move beyond pre-war debate

Q: When Bush asked the Congress for [the Iraq War] authority, he said, "I will go to the UN and make a concerted effort." The UN for him was window dressing. He said, "I will give the inspectors time." He didn't give the inspectors time.

A: That's not true.

Q: It is absolutely true. It's the reason that Mohamed ElBaradei has just been given the Nobel Peace Prize.

A: That's false. The UN voted repeatedly to put pressure on Saddam Hussein in order to come forward and allow the inspectors to go everywhere in order to clear up all those things and they repeatedly voted over and over again to support the US' position in this. It's a little slippery to say that, gee willikers, now that we know more after the fact, only one side is to blame here. Besides, you've got to get beyond all this. This is about what's in the best interest of not only our fighting soldiers and not even just the US, but the future of the world here.

Source: MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews on 2006 election Nov 11, 2005

Joe Biden: Proud of involvement in winding down Iraq war

Q: The end of the Iraq war was tasked to you in terms of winding this down. Your son served there. You were involved intimately in all of these decisions. How do you feel about the end of the war?

BIDEN: I feel like I participated in something that I can be proud of the rest of my life. Had I stayed as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, no matter how engaged I was, I don`t think I would have been in a position to be able to affect events on a day to day basis.

Q: In 2002, you voted for the authorization of use of force to go to Iraq. Is there a lesson learned about how we debate the use of force, how we debate whether or not to go to war?

BIDEN: I hope to God there is, because when that original debate took place, those of us like myself who voted to authorize to use force were based on the president`s commitment not to use force. He had no intention of using force. It was to demonstrate to the United Nations and to the world that we were united in wanting to stop Saddam Hussein.

Source: MSNBC's "The Rachel Maddow Show" on 2012 election Dec 13, 2011

Joe Biden: We shared responsibility to bring democracy to Libya

The Iraq War really spiraled out of control pretty quickly. One of the lessons we`ve learned is that you can go into any dictatorship and try to impose democracy, but it`s going to take you $1 trillion, a decade, and you`re going to have to make a judgment whether or not you`d better spend your time and effort doing something else to make the world safer.

I would give Libya as an example. It was clear that Moammar Gadhafi was really not a good guy at all. But what did the president do? We spent several billion dollars, but we didn`t lose one American life. We didn`t put one boot on the ground. And we had a shared responsibility with the rest of the world, including Arab nations as well as NATO to deal with that issue.

And now, there`s a shared responsibility to the world to help them establish a democracy. That`s very different than going it alone. I hope we`ve learned the lesson that, unless our immediate vital national interest is at stake, going it alone should be the last option.

Source: MSNBC's "The Rachel Maddow Show" on 2012 election Dec 13, 2011

Joe Biden: Withdraw US troops continuously from Afghanistan until 2014

Q: The horizon on Afghanistan is that that war does not end for America next year, but by the end of 2014. Is it possible it could end sooner?

BIDEN: It has the potential to be wound down. It`s in direct proportion to how wound up the Afghan military is, how good they are, how quickly they come online. And how much responsibility the Afghan Government is able to exert politically within Afghanistan. For example, the president said that we were going to withdraw "the surge," 33,000 forces by the end of this summer. And we`re not going to slow this down. This doesn`t mean that we`re going to wait until the last minute to say the other 60,000-some folks are going to come out at the end of 2014. We are going to continue to drawdown forces on a continuous basis, continuing to turn over responsibility to the Afghans, because at the end of the day, our objective is to as responsibly as we can withdraw American forces from Afghanistan.

Source: MSNBC's "The Rachel Maddow Show" on 2012 election Dec 13, 2011

Joe Biden: Iran is isolated, and will be more so when Syria falls

Q: After the Iraq war, is Iran in a stronger position than it would have been without the Iraq war? Because Saddam Hussein was Iran`s sworn enemy, and now, a new Iraq is in some ways a de facto ally of Iran.

BIDEN: Well, the argument was made early on that we removed two of Iran`s most greatest concerns, Saddam in Iraq, and the Taliban in Afghanistan. But the result now, in part because of some really outrageous moves that Iran has made, it actually has lost power in the entire region. The fact of the matter is its only ally left in the region is about to be toppled. That is in Syria with Bashar Assad. But the biggest thing that`s happened is the president has been able to unite the world, including Russia and China, in continuing to ostracize and to isolate Iran. So, the truth is, the capacity of Iran to project power in the Gulf is actually diminished. They are less feared. They have less influence than they have had any time, I would argue, in the last 20 years.

Source: MSNBC's "The Rachel Maddow Show" on 2012 election Dec 13, 2011

Marco Rubio: ISIS plan: US air support for Sunni forces on the ground

[In his CPAC speech, Rubio said, "ISIS is a radical Sunni Islamic group. They need to be defeated on the ground by a Sunni military force with air support from the United States. Put together a coalition of armed regional governments to confront [ISIS] on the ground with U.S. special forces support, logistical support, intelligence support and the most devastating air support possible, and you will wipe ISIS out."

Obama's strategy to defeat ISIS is largely identical to Marco Rubio's. The senator fleshed this out at CPAC: target ISIS by using local ground forces, coupled with air support from the United States, all while U.S. officials take the lead in assembling an international coalition. That, as of this morning, is Rubio's plan. It's also exactly what Obama has been doing since August.

Source: MSNBC on 2015 Conservative Political Action Conf. Feb 27, 2015

Tony Hall: Restrict "conflict diamonds" to end African war financing

So-called "conflict diamonds" are sold to pay for armies terrorizing some of the poorest people on earth. "If you have a glass of wine tonight, you're going to know exactly where that bottle of wine came from. Why shouldn't you know where that diamond is coming from? There's no paper trail," says Rep. Tony Hall. "There's no system to stop conflict diamonds."

Conflict diamonds are diamonds that are financing wars in Africa and costing millions of innocent people their lives and limbs. Hall says the only way to stop this bloodshed is to stop buying diamonds from these war zones. "You should ask the question, ‘Where is this diamond from?' " says Hall. "If that jeweler says, ‘I don't know,' don't buy a diamond there until he finds out." But how do you find out? Right now, after a diamond is cut and polished, there's no way to know. For the past three years, Hall has pushed legislation so consumers can make sure the diamonds they are buying are not linked to human suffering.

Source: Bob Arnot, MSNBC.com on 2002 election Jul 1, 2001

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