2024 Vice Presidential debate: Gov. Tim Walz vs. Sen. JD Vance: on Principles & Values


Donald Trump: News media lying about 2020 election & Hunter Biden laptop

The coup-attempting former president seemed upset by the final question of the debate--about his refusal to honor the results of the 2020 election that he had lost and the resulting attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

[Norah O'Donnell in the debate transcript]: After the 2020 election, President Trump's campaign and others filed 62 lawsuits contesting the results. Judges looked at the evidence and said there was no widespread fraud. The Governors of every state in the nation, Republicans and Democrats, certified the 2020 election results and sent a legal slate of electors to Congress for January 6th.

"CBS is LYING AGAIN about the 2020 Election. Where is my apology from Leslie Stahl? She claimed that the Hunter Biden LAPTOP FROM HELL was not real, and that my Campaign wasn't spied on. CBS IS FAKE NEWS!" he posted on Truth Social.

Trump attacked moderator Norah O'Donnell for even asking: "Norah just made a statement about the Election, not a question. She's having a bad night!"

Source: Huffington Post Fact-Check on 2024 Vice Presidential debate Oct 1, 2024

JD Vance: The real threat to democracy is censorship, not Jan. 6

Q: You have said you would not have certified the last Presidential election. Would you again seek to challenge this year's election results?

VANCE: We're focused on the future. I believe that we actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but it is the threat of censorship.

WALZ: Donald Trump refused to acknowledge that he lost this election.

VANCE: For years in this country, Democrats protested the results of elections. Hillary Clinton in 2016 said that Donald Trump had the election stolen because the Russians bought, like, $500,000 worth of Facebook ads.

WALZ: January 6th was not Facebook ads. Donald Trump is still saying he didn't lose the election. I would just ask that: Did he lose the 2020 election?

VANCE: Tim, I'm focused on the future. Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 COVID situation?

WALZ: That is a damning non answer.

VANCE: It's a damning non answer for you to not talk about censorship.

Source: 2024 Vice Presidential debate: Tim Walz vs. JD Vance Oct 1, 2024

Tim Walz: Jan 6 was not Facebook ads: it was overturning an election

VANCE: We actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but it is the threat of censorship.

WALZ: Donald Trump refused to acknowledge that he lost this election. 140 police officers were beaten at the Capitol that day. Several later died. To deny what happened on January 6--the first time in American history that a President or anyone tried to overturn a fair election and the peaceful transfer of power--and here we are four years later in the same boat.

VANCE: Hillary Clinton in 2016 said that Donald Trump had the election stolen by Vladimir Putin because the Russians bought, like, $500,000 worth of Facebook ads.

WALZ: January 6th was not Facebook ads. Donald Trump is still saying he didn't lose the election. I would just ask that: Did he lose the 2020 election?

VANCE: Tim, I'm focused on the future. Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 COVID situation?

WALZ: That is a damning non answer.

Source: 2024 Vice Presidential debate: Tim Walz vs. JD Vance Oct 1, 2024

JD Vance: Censorship is bigger threat to democracy than Donald Trump

JDV: We don't have to agree on every issue, but we're united behind a basic American First Amendment principle that we ought to debate our differences. We ought to argue about them. We ought to try to persuade our fellow Americans. Kamala Harris is engaged in censorship at an industrial scale. She did it during COVID, she's done it over a number of other issues. That is a much bigger threat to democracy than what Donald Trump said when he said that protesters should peacefully protest on January 6th.

TW: Democracy is bigger than winning an election. You shake hands and then you try and do everything you can to help the other side win. To deny what happened on January 6, the first time in American history that a President or anyone tried to overturn a fair election and the peaceful transfer of power. And here we are four years later in the same boat. When this is over, we need to shake hands and the winner needs to be the winner. This has got to stop. It's tearing our country apart.

Source: 2024 Vice Presidential debate: Tim Walz vs. JD Vance Oct 2, 2024

Tim Walz: Democracy is bigger than winning an election

TW: Democracy is bigger than winning an election. You shake hands and then you try and do everything you can to help the other side win. To deny what happened on January 6, the first time in American history that a President or anyone tried to overturn a fair election and the peaceful transfer of power. And here we are four years later in the same boat. When this is over, we need to shake hands and the winner needs to be the winner. This has got to stop. It's tearing our country apart.

JDV: We don't have to agree on every issue, but we're united behind a basic American First Amendment principle that we ought to debate our differences. We ought to argue about them. We ought to try to persuade our fellow Americans. Kamala Harris is engaged in censorship at an industrial scale. She did it during COVID, she's done it over a number of other issues. That is a much bigger threat to democracy than what Donald Trump said when he said that protesters should peacefully protest on January 6th.

Source: 2024 Vice Presidential debate: Tim Walz vs. JD Vance Oct 2, 2024

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  Candidates for President & Vice-President:
V.P.Kamala Harris (D-CA)
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.(I-CA)
Chase Oliver(L-GA)
Dr.Jill Stein(D-MA)
Former Pres.Donald Trump(R-FL)
Sen.J.D.Vance(R-OH)
Gov.Tim Walz(D-MN)
Dr.Cornel West(I-NJ)

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S.C.Gov.Nikki_Haley(R)
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S.C.Sen.Tim_Scott(R)
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