Fred Thompson on Foreign PolicyFormer Republican Senator (TN) |
A: I think that we have to have confidence in him for the short run to maintain stability. I think ultimately, the people of Pakistan are going to have to decide about Musharraf’s fate. He had been moving in the right direction. He had taken off the uniform he had set elections for January the 8th, he had backed off of some of the things he was doing with regard to the court system that were all antidemocratic.
Q: Should we continue US military aid, some $10 billion to Pakistan since 9/11?
A: Yes. Certainly in the short run. This is no time to start being parsimonious. This is a matter of national security. This is a matter of stability, and the only Muslim country that has nuclear weapons. So let’s don’t be pennywise and pound foolish.
A: I’m going to make sure that he didn’t survive 10 US presidents. Fidel Castro is unique in many respects. He represents the only non-democratic government in the hemisphere. He is uniquely brutal. He is still tyrannizing his own people. He lures the vulnerable and the naive Americans down there and puts on shows for them and they come back and do his propaganda. There are not many people who can pull that sort of thing off. He’s obviously in bad health. That situation, probably, is in God’s hands. He will probably be succeeded by someone who’s no better than him, and that is Raul Castro. And we should treat Raul with the same contempt that we show Castro, including keeping the embargo on Cuba.
A: I’d be saying learn as much as you can about the situation to all my people. We’ve got two competing serious considerations there. One is the rule of law, which we’ve got to stand for, which he’s going against right now. And the other is the fact that it’s one of the most potentially dangerous situations in the world for us right now. He is an ally. There’re not many of them in that part of the world. Even parts of his own government do not have our interests at heart. There are radical Muslim elements there.
Q: We have provided Musharraf $10 billion in American aid since 2001. Should we suspend that aid?
A: Not now. I know that it’s been mentioned by our people. He’s been told that that’s at risk if he did what he, in fact, did. Everything’s going to be on the table. I think we’ve got to play hardball with him.
A: Prime Minister Harper.
Q: What are relations going to be? We always ignore that relationship
A: Well, I’ve never met him, but our relationship is fine.
Q: My point is, our friends don’t get much attention.
A: Well, our friends ought to get plenty of attention. I mean, the challenges that we’re going to face internationally, especially in the future, are going to require our working better with our allies and realizing, for example, that in the global war on terror, this is the forces of civilization against the bad guys. And everybody’s got a stake in it, whether they realize it or not. So, certainly we ought to work with Canada economically. We get more oil from them, I guess, than anybody. And they have more potential oil to sell than an awful lot of people. So they’re important economically, and for our national security.
The campaign in Afghanistan is a prime example of this, both as a largely successful effort against a terrorist state and as a logical extension of the mission of NATO, which now reaches far beyond the boundaries of Europe.
It wasn’t always that way. 25 years ago, this land was one of the most prosperous in Africa, & exported food to the rest of the continent. Then Robert Mugabe was elected.
Last month, the United Nations elected Mugabe’s Zimbabwe to lead the UN Commission on Sustainable Development. That’s the organization charged with promoting sound long-term economies.
Why? Robert Mugabe was given chairmanship of the commission because his view on sustainable development fits right in with much of the UN’s. He claims that third-world poverty is caused by free market economies like America’s. [The UN does some good, but] it’s a constant challenge at the UN & the reason we must always have a strong ambassador there willing to blow the whistle when they do outrageous things.
A: First of all, Iran might fall of its own weight if we give it a little help. We’re not doing nearly enough to get communications in there and let those people communicate with one another. You know, if everybody in Iran had a computer, it’d be a free country today. There are riots and shootings of Iranian Guard that are seldom reported, but they’re taking place all over the country nowadays. Their inflation is up; unemployment is up. You know, they have to import a lot of their basic staples.
Q: One refinery.
A: Yes, 40% of their gasoline [is imported]. And, you know, the radical religious approach to everything trumps sound economics. Eventually, that’s going to catch up with them. So we’ve got to encourage that and use our intelligence resources, if they’re sufficient, to do everything we can to help bring that about.
More than 1,300 rockets have been fired into Israel from Gaza since Palestinians were given control two years ago. Israelis, however, have gone to incredible lengths to stop the war against them without harming Palestinian non-combatants. But make no mistake, Israel is at war. The Palestinian strategy is to purposely target and kill Israeli civilians. Then, when Israel goes after those launching the attacks, Palestinians claim to be the victims. The irony is that Israel has the military might to easily win the war that is being waged against them today. They haven’t used that might, in the past, out of compassion for Palestinian civilians and because it could trigger a wider regional conflict.
A: I was on the Intelligence Committee, and I’ve met with our CIA officers in small soundproof rooms and faraway places, talking about what was going on in that particular country. I was a Republican floor manager for the Homeland Security bill, which I like to think has helped somewhat us not have another 9/11. I was chairman of the Government Affairs Committee, which has proliferation jurisdiction, among a lot of other things. So I think it is valuable. I disagree with my friend Mike [Huckabee, on whether Bush’s foreign policy] is arrogant. Closing down Guantanamo because people will think better of us, and bringing those people here to give them rights that they don’t have there, and lifting the embargo on Castro, and things like that, I simply disagree in terms of a view of the world and the kind of world that we live in.